Losing all respect for RCMP
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As far as the OP losing respect for the RCMP I'm not sure that anyone has accused him of having any.
As to the story I don't think the retired officer deserves any respect either but you can't paint them all with the same brush.
As to the story I don't think the retired officer deserves any respect either but you can't paint them all with the same brush.
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Re: Losing all respect for RCMP
Partmanpartfish ...
As I said in response to your initial post I do not know all of the circumstances so fail to understand how you think I can, in all fairness, comment on the matter further. I am not sure that your personal theoretical interpretation of the law is in any way the same as dictated by case law.
If you are interested in being realistic I think you should do the same since, judging by your last comment, the law is something that you appear to know next to nothing about.
As I said in response to your initial post I do not know all of the circumstances so fail to understand how you think I can, in all fairness, comment on the matter further. I am not sure that your personal theoretical interpretation of the law is in any way the same as dictated by case law.
If you are interested in being realistic I think you should do the same since, judging by your last comment, the law is something that you appear to know next to nothing about.
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I have great respect for police officers, the vast majority of whom are good. But unlike you guys, I'm not going to rally behind the bad ones or spew that 'we don't know all of the facts yet' BS. Unless one is really, really stupid, it's easy to see what likely went on here and how more people than the fired guy were likely involved.
To be honest, some of you guys were kissing Mantler up to the bitter end.
These officers get paid very well. They get very nice pensions after relatively few years of service. When they do retire, some can get nice civilian jobs with the force to supplement their generous pensions.
Is it too much to expect exemplary behavior from them?
To be honest, some of you guys were kissing Mantler up to the bitter end.
These officers get paid very well. They get very nice pensions after relatively few years of service. When they do retire, some can get nice civilian jobs with the force to supplement their generous pensions.
Is it too much to expect exemplary behavior from them?
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You guys? Who's making excuses here?Partmanpartfish wrote:But unlike you guys
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Partmanpartfish wrote:I have great respect for police officers,
The first thing you did was diss all the RCMP members involved in any part of the investigation.
So, basically the RCMP used their powers to bully and harass a citizen as payback for an ex-member.
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TylerM4 wrote:While we don't know the whole story - we know that the RCMP fired this individual and we know his termination was a direct result of this confrontation with his neighbor.They did it quickly without the normal year long drawn out process, multiple reviews and appeal (paid administrative leave the whole time), etc. that it normally takes for this sort of thing. This tells us that this officer did something very wrong and they had strong evidence to the fact.
All speculation aside - this officer is guilty of something involving his neighbor and it's something serious.
And finally - Don't judge all RCMP by a few bad apples. That's just extremely short sighted - especially as it seems that in this case the RCMP brass taking the problem seriously and have taken strong and immediate (for them) action.
By what I heard on the news it was as a result of actions he took. It was not due to him laying a complaint to the RCMP.
It was likely he accessed CPIC or Pros and is not authorized to do so, this is only my thoughts there is no indication this occured. As he stated he did not take any of the file out of the office.
If he made a false complaint he has broken the law. However, we will never know what occured as both might be telling only part of it.
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There is also a report out there that states he stole the DVD with the video of Truscott being fingerprinted. But who knows? I guess we'll have to wait until they're good and ready to tell us.
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This is obviously over my head but i dont understand how this guy, being retired, could access anything having to do with the rcmp.
So did he call a favor, in which case someone else is involved?
So did he call a favor, in which case someone else is involved?
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To Monroe ...
A number of RCMP detachments hire civilian workers to perform office duties in order to cut costs. I suspect that he was hired by the RCMP but paid by the city. Hiring ex-RCMP for certain policing relating functions reduces employee training time to Nil.
Proof reading files, exhibit accountability and working the front counter would be examples of where years of police knowledge would be an asset. Plus I believe that retired members still keep their top security clearance on a year to year basis.
A number of RCMP detachments hire civilian workers to perform office duties in order to cut costs. I suspect that he was hired by the RCMP but paid by the city. Hiring ex-RCMP for certain policing relating functions reduces employee training time to Nil.
Proof reading files, exhibit accountability and working the front counter would be examples of where years of police knowledge would be an asset. Plus I believe that retired members still keep their top security clearance on a year to year basis.
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Re: Losing all respect for RCMP
The lawyer for a man fired by Vernon's RCMP detachment has issued a statement from his client over an ugly and ongoing neighbour dispute.
Scott Rempel admits in a summary of evidence dated Dec. 16 that while working as a civilian member at the detachment, he looked at a “synopsis report” concerning charges against his neighbour, Stephen Truscott.
However, Rempel denies removing any of Truscott's information. “I never at any time took any documentation concerning Mr. Truscott from the facility,” he states.
Police arrested Truscott Jan. 15, three days after he had chased Rempel's dog to the fence dividing their two BX properties. Truscott claimed the German shepherd bit him.
Crown later charged Truscott with cruelty to animals, uttering threats and possession of a firearm for dangerous purposes.
In the summary, Rempel accuses his neighbour of running over his dog with a snowmobile, causing it significant injury.
On Sept. 29, Truscott received an email from the RCMP stating there had been a breach of security at the detachment and his information had been stolen.
“Your personal information was accessed, viewed and copied, and that the copy of the paper file/DVD (video of fingerprinting) are unaccounted for; and you have the right to complaint to the Privacy Commissioner of Canada about the privacy breach,” reads the email.
“As the offending individual's employment was terminated, there is nothing to report regarding any remedial activity,” the email states. “Our file regarding this at the Vernon detachment is concluded.”
An Oct. 29 letter to Truscott from RCMP Supt. Jim McNamara confirmed Rempel had been investigated and his employment had been terminated.
On Oct. 16, charges against Truscott were stayed by the Crown.
Still, Rempel expresses “genuine fear of Mr. Truscott.”
Rempel says while he did not want to comment, given "the many inaccuracies" in another media report on Dec. 15, "we felt we had no option but to provide this information to defend our reputation.”
http://www.castanet.net/edition/news-st ... htm#154327
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A lawyer denies his client is guilty. Stop the presses.
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It actually came from the client.Partmanpartfish wrote:A lawyer denies his client is guilty. Stop the presses.
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