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Homeless Camp

Postby Gixxer » Sep 22nd, 2017, 8:14 pm

I drive by this new hangout/camp a couple times of day. Im seriously over it. Can the city not designate a specific area (no not the park) out of the public's view. A place that could be setup with garbage cans and porta potties. Lets be honest this problem isnt going away anytime soon.


https://www.castanet.net/edition/news-s ... htm#207282

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Re: Homeless Camp

Postby WalterWhite » Sep 22nd, 2017, 10:04 pm

We seem to share a similar view:

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Re: Homeless Camp

Postby bob57 » Sep 23rd, 2017, 4:16 am

Angela Merkel can take care of a few refugees and Vernon can't ?
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Re: Homeless Camp

Postby Ken7 » Sep 26th, 2017, 6:26 am

Should have dragged Trudeau from the wine tour and gave him a tour of this camp. Then ask him when he will start caring for our Canadian's before he increases this situation by welcoming who ever!

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Re: Homeless Camp

Postby Bsuds » Sep 26th, 2017, 6:40 am

There is a Military camp not far away. Open it up for use by the homeless with a soup kitchen, washing facilities etc.

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Re: Homeless Camp

Postby Gixxer » Sep 26th, 2017, 7:23 am

Ken7 wrote:Should have dragged Trudeau from the wine tour and gave him a tour of this camp. Then ask him when he will start caring for our Canadian's before he increases this situation by welcoming who ever!


Whats refugees have to do with people that prefer to be homeless?
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Re: Homeless Camp

Postby Bsuds » Sep 26th, 2017, 7:34 am

Gixxer wrote:Whats refugees have to do with people that prefer to be homeless?


I'm sure they don't all prefer to be homeless.

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Re: Homeless Camp

Postby southy » Sep 26th, 2017, 7:37 am

Have any of you considered taking your ideas and thoughts directly to those individuals, groups and/or organizations that can actually do something about this issue? I don't live in Vernon - but there must be social agencies, the mayor and councillors, RCMP community staff, medical community even some of the homeless to get their take on the issue. Seems like a real problem - maybe if the community and individuals who are concerned like yourselves joined together a real solution might be found.

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Re: Homeless Camp

Postby Gixxer » Sep 26th, 2017, 7:43 am

Bsuds wrote:
I'm sure they don't all prefer to be homeless.


Im sure they prefer to hang out and do drugs than work and pay rent.

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Re: Homeless Camp

Postby southy » Sep 26th, 2017, 7:46 am

Gixxer wrote:
Bsuds wrote:
I'm sure they don't all prefer to be homeless.


Im sure they prefer to hang out and do drugs than work and pay rent.


Do they ALL do drugs Gixxer?
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Re: Homeless Camp

Postby Gixxer » Sep 26th, 2017, 7:56 am

Chances are that most are.
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Re: Homeless Camp

Postby bob vernon » Sep 26th, 2017, 9:40 am

They're just part of the "other" that the extreme right wing has manufactured. Many of these homeless ARE doing drugs...... to try and cope with their demons. The drugs allow a brief escape from the memories of physical and sexual abuse that some of them have endured. Add into that the segment of the population who would have developed mental illness no matter what and have been turned out on the streets when the psychiatric institutions closed down to save all those dollars for a tax cut.

How many politicians do we have to endure who claim to be Christians and yet allow this to happen? Not municipal politicians who are at the bottom and try to cope with few resources, and probably not the Federal ones either. It's the province who is at fault. They are responsible for health care and have failed miserably. But they delivered on those tax cuts.

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Re: Homeless Camp

Postby Raco123 » Sep 27th, 2017, 8:20 am

The city of Vernons complacency regarding the homeless and crime is cowardly and without any resolution it's not going away it's only getting worse taxpayers have more right to a safe city
Public need to review the city's code and challenge the city in every aspect you pay taxes for a safe city
It is a false statement that the homeless are not breaking any laws when in fact they are breaking many just beacause they can't pay fines does not entitle them to break laws of any kind
Please call Vernon city council at tel 250 545 1361 and continue to make Vernon safe

There are about 10 camping bylaws that are presently being broken see below link

http://www.rdosmaps.bc.ca/min_bylaws/by ... ed/713.pdf

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Re: Homeless Camp

Postby slimebucket » Sep 27th, 2017, 9:12 am

southy wrote:Have any of you considered taking your ideas and thoughts directly to those individuals, groups and/or organizations that can actually do something about this issue? I don't live in Vernon - but there must be social agencies, the mayor and councillors, RCMP community staff, medical community even some of the homeless to get their take on the issue. Seems like a real problem - maybe if the community and individuals who are concerned like yourselves joined together a real solution might be found.



I really dont mean to be a wet blanket or a negative nilly, but I could show you dozens of news stories about someone who approached the government, churches, companies, food bank, local businesses to try and get together and help with the problem, but every single time NO one shows up to meetings, cares, replies, or puts any effort in what so ever.

Basically the people who can change, refuse to do anything, and the people that want change are not in postitions to do anything, so they get frustrated and give up.

And to the person who said "I don think they all want to be there" I honestly have helped over 200 homeless people try to clean themselves up get work and a place to live, and %100 of the time (not counting FAMILY MEMBERS) they decided they WANTED to be there, they DO NOT want to do what they are told, or have to put effort in, and %100 of them quit after the first day AND CHOOSE TO BE HOMELESS. Im sorry, I have gone almost a year and a half without being able to find a place to rent once in Alberta. I was HOMELESS that time, but I spent the whole time trying to find a place, which I did. In that time I didn't have a job either, I didn't have friends to depend on, and my family at the time wouldnt help me. I SPENT every single day trying to get off the streets.

The reason nothing works, is because they do not want the help. There is shelters, there is places that will help, but you see the homeless have to put a little bit of effort in. So they refuse. and CHOOSE to live in camps. Please stop defending people that CHOOSE to bother others their whole life because they just REFUSE TO PUT ANY EFFORT IN.

If you really feel homeless do NOT want to be there, invite one to live with you for a year. Do it. If you don't your a hypocrite. If you do, you will see, they CHOOSE not to clean themselves even though they have a bathroom, they choose not to clean up after themselves, they choose to drink, choose to smoke, choose to spend spend spend, choose to beg, choose to steal, but in that time they wont even TRY to better themselves, they will use you, over and over and over again until you have to kick them out or they stab you.

I spend like over 6 years of my life trying to be a saint helping homeless people. I am really not trying to be negative, but that is 6 years wasted I will never get back, and I accomplished nothing.

The core of the problem is not the homeless. It is their families that so willing throw away family members like garage. Most homeless have mental problems and the family instead of dealing with it, seeing specialists, and understanding it, get angry with them, kick them out, abandon them, and then ignore them.

Every homeless person you see has a mother, father, brothers and sisters, even sons and daughters that all ignore them. If the person was old the family would put them in a home and take care of them, but alias they are not old enough, so their families just throw them out like garbage. Who ever is the family members of those homeless people should feel ashamed of themselves. They are the true monsters in this situation. Not the homeless, not the government that wont help, its the families that have abandoned those poor people.

I think there should be places homeless people can be taken to, to have their mental problems addressed, and if the homeless person has family that are allowing that person to be homeless, they should be fined the amount it costs the government to care for deal with the mental problems. The families who are throwing these people away are not only causing a huge tax burden for everyone else, but they are physically bothering people and making people feel unsafe, unwelcome, unwanted, and insecure in their own town. I really feel these families should be held more responsible for these burdens.

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Re: Homeless Camp

Postby Fancy » Sep 27th, 2017, 11:11 am

slimebucket wrote: I really feel these families should be held more responsible for these burdens.

What if they tried? Why should families bear the expense and burden of someone who refuses help?

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