Homeless Camp

[Gixxer]

Allow them to set up in the Civic arena.

[Boots Riley]

The homeless were much less of a problem when they were hidden at the back of Polson Park. Now that they're out in the open in the linear park or behind London Drugs they've become a problem. I think that it's good that they're out in the open and some people have to face reality instead of living in their perfect world.

The solution isn't blaming our "lax bylaws" and urging the homeless to move to another community. It's amazing how this nation still tries to call itself Christian. We've terminated psychiatric institutions and reduced mental health care and turned the victims out onto the streets and wonder what we could possibly do to fix the situation. Oh yeah....... reduce my taxes.

what does religion have to do with any of this?

[bob vernon]

Isn't there some kind of oath that every elected official has to take? And in Canada the oaths are all based in Christianity. And every Councilor, Mayor, MLA, cabinet minister, Premier, MP, and PM all say "yes" when asked the oath questions about equality, fairness, and all the other good stuff. And then go about ignoring the very promises they've made.

You can get every elected body to observe a minutes silence whenever there's some kind of disaster. What are they thinking about during the silence.
Every elected official will claim to be a caring and religious person, but most act totally differently when it comes to voting or caring about their fellow man.

[Boots Riley]

Isn't there some kind of oath that every elected official has to take? And in Canada the oaths are all based in Christianity. And every Councilor, Mayor, MLA, cabinet minister, Premier, MP, and PM all say "yes" when asked the oath questions about equality, fairness, and all the other good stuff. And then go about ignoring the very promises they've made.

You can get every elected body to observe a minutes silence whenever there's some kind of disaster. What are they thinking about during the silence.
Every elected official will claim to be a caring and religious person, but most act totally differently when it comes to voting or caring about their fellow man.

these are not mutually exclusive. I'm pretty sure more people have been killed or murdered over religion than any other reason in the history of mankind.

[dontrump]

Isn't there some kind of oath that every elected official has to take? And in Canada the oaths are all based in Christianity. And every Councilor, Mayor, MLA, cabinet minister, Premier, MP, and PM all say "yes" when asked the oath questions about equality, fairness, and all the other good stuff. And then go about ignoring the very promises they've made.

You can get every elected body to observe a minutes silence whenever there's some kind of disaster. What are they thinking about during the silence.
Every elected official will claim to be a caring and religious person, but most act totally differently when it comes to voting or caring about their fellow man.

I don't think anyone ever meant this included looking out for prostitutes, druggies and mentally unstable people whom
are where their at from their own doings and 99% don't want help in the first place ;; these types are happy in their self induced conditions

[swissboy]

I wonder how many of them are really homeless and how many are just draining the system resources for the few who really need it. Open drug use and other criminal activities should be dealt with the RCMP, and the one's doing it put on a bus and send back where they came from. There is no reason that Vernon should have to deal with this. If the bylaw states that the tents have to be taken down at a certain time then enforce it and be done with it.Where are they go to the bathroom etc. It's disgusting.
I drive by the upper mission a few times a week and most of the one's loitering out front could be put to work somewhere.They don't seem to have a care and are just waiting for a handout.
Most of us worked hard all our life and did not depend on hand outs why can't they do the same.

[the truth]

sounds like this park is now a junkie park only ,instead of a nice park for the tax payers to enjoy

[bob vernon]

Judging by the comments in this thread, it seems that Christian values have largely disappeared from our society. So why bother with our oaths of office. Pledges and oaths sound like they're kinda socialist anyway. We should do away with them.
And what was Mary Magdalene's profession, anyway? And that Escariot guy was just not worthy. Imagine, Jesus palled around with these kinds of people. What kind of guy is that?

For most of us, the only times that we go to church is for a wedding or funeral, so we should do away with them. Churches, by the way, get a tax exemption from City Hall. How fair is that? I understand that some leftist church groups are actually going down to the homeless camp and giving them food. Those are tax dollars being used to feed the homeless instead of being collected by City Hall. Christianity has caused these people to loose their minds.

[DonnaCare]

1) Anyone who assumes every homeless person is doing drugs is showcasing thier ignorance..as is anyone who assumes all people on drugs are their "because they chose it". Do your research before assuming you know anything about people living on the streets. *removed*

2), the police officer we spoke to the other dya was very much AGAINST " hiding the street people away like medicine hat does, it doesn't work anyhow" His exact words

3), of course the police and bylaw are meeting hostility. It happens when you cant get help for your mental illness, cant find a place to call home, get moved around and harassed, and people are showing up with black eyes and swollen faces, after being "questioned" by the police. Despite what all those *removed*
choose to think, every single one of those people is exactly that, a human being

[jimmy4321]

The only positive is you know where they are.
The mentally ill and addicts should have access to help if they want it, the rest when it gets super cold we can hand over bus tickets to Vancouver.

[southy]

The only positive is you know where they are.
The mentally ill and addicts should have access to help if they want it, the rest when it gets super cold we can hand over bus tickets to Vancouver.

*removed* Hand over bus tickets to Vancouver??? Seriously???

[Gixxer]

Vernon has amazing facilities and resources for the mentally ill.

Yes some of the homeless in Vernon are mentally ill and not drug users. But there are alot that are drug addicts tha have chose that road.

[GordonH]

Vernon has amazing facilities and resources for the mentally ill.

Yes some of the homeless in Vernon are mentally ill and not drug users. But there are alot that are drug addicts tha have chose that road.

Large segment of mentally ill people both homeless & not, make the bad choice to self medicate.

[jimmy4321]

*removed* Hand over bus tickets to Vancouver??? Seriously???

So what do you take issue with Southy? Addicts & and mentally ill getting access to treatment?
Or the idea of sending the rest of them off? I mean if not jailing dealers, thieves and prostitutes, then what?

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[GordonH]

Mental illness & the Province can be long and stressful road (here small taste) (does not help being lumped in with welfare):
1) starts with proper diagnoses
2) then trying to get on to disability (its not automatic, may take a while i.e more then 1 try)
3) this one can take years. Figuring out the combination of meds that works to control the illness.

Many give up (due to being overwhelmed & stressed out) & just disappear onto the street, especially those without a very good support system i.e family and/or friends.