Flaggers needs manners

Re: Flaggers needs manners

Postby Fancy » Oct 10th, 2017, 10:57 am

Gixxer wrote:TCP dont have time to listen to Joe Public. Their job is to keep traffic moving. Who knows the exact circumstances in this. Maybe hurt feelings guy was in the middle of the line up and stopped the flow of traffic to voice his concerns.

Maybe the flagger should file a hurt feelings report and stop being a "snowflake". I didn't see any traffic in the photo.

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Re: Flaggers needs manners

Postby my5cents » Oct 10th, 2017, 11:04 am

Gixxer wrote:TCP dont have time to listen to Joe Public. Their job is to keep traffic moving. Who knows the exact circumstances in this. Maybe hurt feelings guy was in the middle of the line up and stopped the flow of traffic to voice his concerns.

Perhaps the flaggers have exactly the same problem you have.

Not being aware of the priorities of their job.

First priority,, numero uno, job one ..... SAFETY, not, "keep traffic moving"

To that end they should have listened. Period.

Excusing their action by suggesting that they get insulted and verbally abused at times, is ridiculous.

Gixxer : I posed these questions to you before, that you did not answer
How about an answer ? :

So you are the flag team's boss, you are advised that your staff displayed incorrect signage that created a possible danger.

You are advised that a concerned citizen attempts to advise two different flaggers of this situation. Each flagger is verbally abusive, to the extent of threatening to damage private property of the citizen if he doesn't comply with demands, all without determining the content of the citizen's concerns.

Taking into account that, yes, at times these "professional" flagger are subject to abuse, although not from this concerned citizen, would you conclude that their actions were perfectly appropriate and in line with proper procedure ?

How should this concerned citizen advise someone in authority of this signage problem, by letter to the companies head office ?
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Re: Flaggers needs manners

Postby Fancy » Oct 10th, 2017, 11:19 am

Guess the flagger failed this part:
Receive and communicate specific instructions clearly, firmly, and courteously.
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Re: Flaggers needs manners

Postby Gixxer » Oct 10th, 2017, 12:38 pm

So Joe Public stopping in a construction zone with moving equipment and with out PPE on is safe?
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Re: Flaggers needs manners

Postby Fancy » Oct 10th, 2017, 12:39 pm

Gixxer wrote:So Joe Public stopping in a construction zone with moving equipment and with out PPE on is safe?

Didn't look like much of anything was moving.
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Re: Flaggers needs manners

Postby Gixxer » Oct 10th, 2017, 12:51 pm

Doenst matter a construction zone is a construction zone.
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Re: Flaggers needs manners

Postby Fancy » Oct 10th, 2017, 12:52 pm

So the signs should be right and if not they should be reported and corrected immediately.
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Re: Flaggers needs manners

Postby Gixxer » Oct 10th, 2017, 12:57 pm

They couldve been in the middle of changing them. Where you there personally to witness all this?
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Re: Flaggers needs manners

Postby Fancy » Oct 10th, 2017, 1:11 pm

Gixxer wrote:They couldve been in the middle of changing them.
lol - not a soul around.
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Re: Flaggers needs manners

Postby Ken7 » Oct 10th, 2017, 8:55 pm

dontrump wrote:Bad Flaggers are like Bad cops theres always one in the group but we cant condemn a whole circle of people
over one bad apple type thing;; :130:


I must agree with you and the rest get painted with the same brush.

My observations of the flag company here in Kelowna is generally good. On the odd occasion I see a problem as lack of attention to their responsibility. I was trained to direct traffic and I think the cellphone has created problems as texting is distraction from their task at hand.

Sadly the men and woman who are on the construction crew are depending upon the flaggers. I think some attention needs to be placed in that area. There is a time for texting and times where you should wait until your break.

I sure do like the Valley road gal, she's got a smile that makes my day!! Dark hair and the most infectious smile one could have!
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Re: Flaggers needs manners

Postby Ken7 » Oct 10th, 2017, 8:58 pm

Gixxer wrote:They dont get paid to smile


You are correct, but it goes a long way as it might just brighten the guy or gals day when they are upset they were held up a little longer then anticipated.

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Re: Flaggers needs manners

Postby my5cents » Oct 17th, 2017, 8:21 pm

The wind storm today (Tuesday 17 Oct) created problems in many locations. In Summerland a portion of the city was without power because of a tree down across lines on Prairie Valley Rd.

I won't go into the geographic details, but suffice to say the location of the problem was at a location at which there was no viable detours excepting retracing travel by 2.5 km. Then travel the same direction on a parallel street. The reason for the 2.5 km detour was because there were no other streets that lead between the blocked Prairie Valley Rd to the parallel street, Dale Meadows Rd in the vicinity of the fallen tree.

But that happens.

The remarkable point is the flagger that could multi task. She appeared to be late 50ish, likely not an easy life, but she was there sending cars to turn right and in a big circle, no instructions, just an angry look, but she could hold her "Stop/Slow" sign, smoke a cigarette AND text and make the face ! Well done.
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