1.1 million for 6 new police

1.1 million for 6 new police

Postby common_sense_guy » Nov 29th, 2017, 12:06 pm

Just read 1.1 million dollars for six new police. That works out to over 180,000 per officer. Does anybody else have trouble with that math.
the smartest person in the room usually isn't the one talking the most but rather talking the least ;)

Ken7 likes this post.
common_sense_guy
Fledgling
 
Posts: 237
Likes: 369 posts
Liked in: 203 posts
Joined: Nov 23rd, 2017, 12:40 pm

Re: 1.1 million for 6 new police

Postby gman313 » Nov 29th, 2017, 12:06 pm

sure don't, I'm in kelowna

2 people like this post.
gman313
Grand Pooh-bah
 
Posts: 2840
Likes: 1198 posts
Liked in: 1382 posts
Joined: Sep 15th, 2008, 7:03 pm

Re: 1.1 million for 6 new police

Postby GordonH » Nov 29th, 2017, 12:10 pm

When you have to start compromising yourself and your morals for the people around you, it’s probably time to change the people around you.

ferri likes this post.
User avatar
GordonH
Buddha of the Board
 
Posts: 21360
Likes: 2430 posts
Liked in: 7759 posts
Joined: Oct 4th, 2008, 6:21 pm
Location: Second star to the right and straight on 'til morning

Re: 1.1 million for 6 new police

Postby vegas1500 » Nov 29th, 2017, 12:40 pm

common_sense_guy wrote:Just read 1.1 million dollars for six new police. That works out to over 180,000 per officer. Does anybody else have trouble with that math.


Not really. That includes everything...wage, benefits, pension, office space, vehicles, uniforms... the list goes on and on. Just be happy they are adding some enforcement.

7 people like this post.
User avatar
vegas1500
Übergod
 
Posts: 1287
Likes: 3759 posts
Liked in: 1725 posts
Joined: Aug 4th, 2013, 5:53 pm

Re: 1.1 million for 6 new police

Postby Sparki55 » Nov 29th, 2017, 12:55 pm

vegas1500 wrote:
common_sense_guy wrote:Just read 1.1 million dollars for six new police. That works out to over 180,000 per officer. Does anybody else have trouble with that math.


Not really. That includes everything...wage, benefits, pension, office space, vehicles, uniforms... the list goes on and on. Just be happy they are adding some enforcement.


If I remember correctly an officer makes close to $80,000 per year. Which raises the question, what $100,000 more is needed for? $100,000 for a car, uniform, gun and benefits? Seems high?

2 people like this post.
Sparki55
Board Meister
 
Posts: 623
Likes: 435 posts
Liked in: 563 posts
Joined: Feb 24th, 2013, 1:38 pm

Re: 1.1 million for 6 new police

Postby Loki2u » Nov 29th, 2017, 1:19 pm

It's hard to see any negatives to this considering Vernon was recently considered the 9th most crime ridden place in the whole country.
You are not entitled to your opinion. You are entitled to your INFORMED opinion. No one is entitled to be ignorant. -Harlan Ellison-

4 people like this post.
Loki2u
Fledgling
 
Posts: 330
Likes: 363 posts
Liked in: 391 posts
Joined: Aug 24th, 2014, 6:09 pm

Re: 1.1 million for 6 new police

Postby aitaix » Nov 29th, 2017, 4:00 pm

Think of it this way.

An Electrician earns (..I'm ball parking here so be flexible with me)

$30 an hour

If I say to a Home Owner that "We need 6 Electricians at $65 / hour to complete this job"

And they come back to me with "But they only earn $30 /hour?" What is the extra $35 going to?


The RCMP have an overhead as well, Sure every officer doesn't clear $180k as an annual Salary. They're a business as well. They have overheads as described earlier. Administration, IT, Infrastructure, Liability Insurance etc.

It might not be what you think is appropriate, but what are you going to do about it? Post in the Castanet Forums? [icon_lol2.gif]

Smurf likes this post.
aitaix
 
Posts: 15
Likes: 0 post
Liked in: 15 posts
Joined: Oct 30th, 2008, 1:04 pm

Re: 1.1 million for 6 new police

Postby Sparki55 » Nov 29th, 2017, 4:14 pm

aitaix wrote:It might not be what you think is appropriate, but what are you going to do about it? Post in the Castanet Forums? [icon_lol2.gif]


You're right, what a useless waste of time. Next year if they change the rate to $500,000 an officer I better not post about it and cough up the taxes.

Glacier likes this post.
Sparki55
Board Meister
 
Posts: 623
Likes: 435 posts
Liked in: 563 posts
Joined: Feb 24th, 2013, 1:38 pm

Re: 1.1 million for 6 new police

Postby Jflem1983 » Nov 29th, 2017, 4:50 pm

Crime rates never go down. Police budgets are at stake. If crime goes down. So does enforcement. Leading to a "need"
For more police. Unfortunately we in the okanagan are home to more than our fair share of low lifes. There will always be a need for a few cops here.

Does vernon need 6 more. I think they might.

1.1 million. Does seem high. However every single thing the government does is expensive. Vernon maybe could look at a regional police force. Band together with kelowna and kamloops. ?
Now they want to take our guns away . That would be just fine. Take em away from the criminals first . Ill gladly give u mine. "Charlie Daniels"

You have got to stand for something . Or you will fall for anything "Aaron Tippin"
User avatar
Jflem1983
Guru
 
Posts: 5785
Likes: 12256 posts
Liked in: 3240 posts
Joined: Aug 23rd, 2015, 10:38 am

Re: 1.1 million for 6 new police

Postby vegas1500 » Nov 29th, 2017, 4:56 pm

[/quote]Not really. That includes everything...wage, benefits, pension, office space, vehicles, uniforms... the list goes on and on. Just be happy they are adding some enforcement.[/quote]

If I remember correctly an officer makes close to $80,000 per year. Which raises the question, what $100,000 more is needed for? $100,000 for a car, uniform, gun and benefits? Seems high?[/quote]

We employ HD technicians that make roughly $50/hr. I have seen the math and it would blow your mind what each one costs us per year, all in.....so the 180k/year doesn't shock me at all for an officer.

Smurf likes this post.
User avatar
vegas1500
Übergod
 
Posts: 1287
Likes: 3759 posts
Liked in: 1725 posts
Joined: Aug 4th, 2013, 5:53 pm

Re: 1.1 million for 6 new police

Postby maryjane48 » Nov 29th, 2017, 5:04 pm

Lol more cops to end up on harrasment charges and more money paid out in lawsuits . Great :130:
User avatar
maryjane48
Buddha of the Board
 
Posts: 17124
Likes: 10586 posts
Liked in: 2666 posts
Joined: May 28th, 2010, 6:58 pm

Re: 1.1 million for 6 new police

Postby Hassel99 » Nov 29th, 2017, 5:20 pm

$180k is about what I expected with vehicles, overtime office space, radios, equipment.

Seems reasonable.

2 people like this post.
User avatar
Hassel99
Lord of the Board
 
Posts: 3547
Likes: 1033 posts
Liked in: 3053 posts
Joined: Aug 23rd, 2012, 8:31 am

Re: 1.1 million for 6 new police

Postby common_sense_guy » Nov 29th, 2017, 5:45 pm

vegas1500 wrote:
common_sense_guy wrote:Just read 1.1 million dollars for six new police. That works out to over 180,000 per officer. Does anybody else have trouble with that math.


Not really. That includes everything...wage, benefits, pension, office space, vehicles, uniforms... the list goes on and on. Just be happy they are adding some enforcement.
yes so their wage account for approximately half of what each one is budgeted for. I didn't read anything about them buying new vehicles or building new offices for them. I'm sure the office environment infrastructure is already in place. Radios and uniforms maybe yes. More fuel for doing their job yes. I didn't know six new police officers would be guaranteed a pension right away so that shouldn't be a budgeted as part of it. My point is the math doesn't sound right and for that kind of money we should be getting double that many officers.. just because it's a positive thing that we're getting them doesn't mean people should overlook the numbers and what they cost. I am merely pointing out it sounds extremely high and I would like to see the budgeted numbers and how it breaks down. Aren't we owed that much as taxpayers especially in a time of rampant government overspending at all levels bad decision making and Corruption
the smartest person in the room usually isn't the one talking the most but rather talking the least ;)
common_sense_guy
Fledgling
 
Posts: 237
Likes: 369 posts
Liked in: 203 posts
Joined: Nov 23rd, 2017, 12:40 pm

Re: 1.1 million for 6 new police

Postby Fancy » Nov 29th, 2017, 5:53 pm

common_sense_guy wrote:Aren't we owed that much as taxpayers especially in a time of rampant government overspending at all levels bad decision making and Corruption

Ask then.
Fancy this, Fancy that and by the way, T*t for Tat
User avatar
Fancy
Grand Pilgrim
 
Posts: 46418
Likes: 1189 posts
Liked in: 6397 posts
Joined: Apr 15th, 2006, 5:23 pm

Re: 1.1 million for 6 new police

Postby aitaix » Nov 29th, 2017, 5:54 pm

Sparki55 wrote:
aitaix wrote:It might not be what you think is appropriate, but what are you going to do about it? Post in the Castanet Forums? [icon_lol2.gif]


Next year if they change the rate to $500,000 an officer I better not post about it and cough up the taxes.


Nah, maybe put in a request under the Privacy Act http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/atip-aiprp/index-eng.htm to the RCMP to see what the $420,000 increase is for rather than be an arm chair warrior on these forums?

Scrobins94 likes this post.
aitaix
 
Posts: 15
Likes: 0 post
Liked in: 15 posts
Joined: Oct 30th, 2008, 1:04 pm

Next

Return to North Okanagan

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: CommonCrawl [Bot], tykrz and 1 guest