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Re: Campfire ban lifted

Postby davis123 » Sep 1st, 2015, 1:38 pm

Definitely not too soon, with the change in weather and all the rain there is no threat like how it was all summer. I understand the worry that it is too soon, but that is just because the fires are so fresh in everyone's mind right now.

Like others' here, I am off to have a fire and repeat as often as possible until next years' fire bans! Let the flames begin lol

And to any knobs out there, please put your fires out and be responsible!!!

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Re: Campfire ban lifted

Postby pentona » Sep 2nd, 2015, 7:40 pm

Something very strange going on here. One minute Forestry and the RDOS rescinds the ban and then the RDOS says no? (at least not in areas not covered by Forestry). One would think that it would be the other way around; fires would be banned IN the forest, and allowed in cities/towns. Front end of the horse doesn't know what the back end is doing?

http://www.castanet.net/news/Penticton/ ... mpfire-ban

http://www.osoyoostimes.com/temporary-c ... an-lifted/

Now read this one: http://www.rdosmaps.bc.ca/min_bylaws/Ne ... EMAINS.pdf
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Re: Campfire ban lifted

Postby XT225 » Sep 2nd, 2015, 7:52 pm

Hmmm....yes, that is rather odd.

REGIONAL DISTRICT OF OKANAGAN-SIMILKAMEEN
INFORMATION RELEASE
September 2, 2015
Temporary Open Fire Ban REMAINS in Place in the RDOS
Although BC Wildfire Service has rescinded the campfire ban on those lands which fall within their provincial fire jurisdiction, the Regional District of Okanagan-Similkameen’s (RDOS) temporary open fire ban, which includes campfires, remains in place for those lands which are contained within the RDOS Fire Protection Areas, which include the Anarchist Mountain, Kaleden, Keremeos Naramata, Okanagan Falls, Tulameen and Willowbrook Fire Area.
The RDOS, in conjunction with the municipalities of Penticton, Summerland, Oliver, Osoyoos, Princeton and the Village of Keremeos has determined that due to the current weather conditions and fire risk, the ban should remain in place.
This ban includes all open fires, including campfires and fires in portable wood burning fireplaces. The ban does not restrict fires in stoves using gas, propane or briquettes.

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Re: Campfire ban lifted

Postby Glacier » Sep 2nd, 2015, 9:01 pm

Municipalities don't have to obey bans. They can either have bans the the Ministry doesn't, and they can also allow camp fires when province wide bans are in place.
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Re: Campfire ban lifted

Postby pentona » Sep 2nd, 2015, 9:42 pm

Glacier wrote:Municipalities don't have to obey bans. They can either have bans the the Ministry doesn't, and they can also allow camp fires when province wide bans are in place.


I realize that. However, you would think that both the RDOS and Forestry would agree on the ban, overall.

To allow it way out in the dry woods (especially in the South) and not allow it in towns, is not too smart. Fire activity on the Testalinden fire has actually increased since Saturday.
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Re: Campfire ban lifted

Postby bob vernon » Sep 4th, 2015, 9:17 pm

The province took down the campfire ban based on ..................... get ready for it..............SCIENCE. The province has more than 200 automatic weather stations scattered around the province. They base decisions like this on science, not based on how people in the street feel on a particular day. We've had far too much of the dumbing down of Canada by drifting away from science.

There's a link on this site with a Castanet reporter out on the street asking people if they think the ban was lifted too soon. Maybe a call to the provincial office that made the decision would have been in order, instead of posing leading questions to a bunch of random people in the park.

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Re: Campfire ban lifted

Postby pentona » Sep 4th, 2015, 9:47 pm

bob vernon wrote:The province took down the campfire ban based on ..................... get ready for it..............SCIENCE. The province has more than 200 automatic weather stations scattered around the province. They base decisions like this on science, not based on how people in the street feel on a particular day. We've had far too much of the dumbing down of Canada by drifting away from science.

There's a link on this site with a Castanet reporter out on the street asking people if they think the ban was lifted too soon. Maybe a call to the provincial office that made the decision would have been in order, instead of posing leading questions to a bunch of random people in the park.


So, are you saying that the Province is smarter than the Cities and Regional District that have KEPT the ban on? Isn't the Regional District run by the Province?
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Re: Campfire ban lifted

Postby skydawg » Sep 5th, 2015, 5:26 am

Smokies on the fire sure were tasty yesterday. Perfect timing on lifting the ban
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Re: Campfire ban lifted

Postby Glacier » Sep 5th, 2015, 11:49 am

This makes absolutely no sense. Why is one area still under a ban when they've had a lot of rain this week?

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Re: Campfire ban lifted

Postby dieseluphammerdown » Sep 5th, 2015, 12:24 pm

Glacier wrote:This makes absolutely no sense. Why is one area still under a ban when they've had a lot of rain this week?

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Re: Campfire ban lifted

Postby trapp » Sep 5th, 2015, 2:28 pm

Most people commenting have no idea of the conditions out in the woods. Once again the bush is wet, the hazard is low to moderate, and there is excellent overnight recovery. There is forecast cooler temps, clouds and more moisture. Just walk on your lawn first thing in the morning and you will see how much overnight recovery there is, it is more at the higher elevations. We only have one small area of high hazard and that is in the Oliver/Osoyoos area, and less than 5% of the area of the Kamloops Fire Center. Most of that is covered by Regional District Fire responsibilities and they are maintaining a ban there. The lifting of campfire bans and burning bans is based on good weather and hazard information, and not taken lightly. It is not based on emotion and misinformation.

There are specific regulations regarding campfires and you face a $345 fine for not following them.

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Re: Campfire ban lifted

Postby Glacier » Sep 5th, 2015, 2:50 pm

trapp wrote:Most people commenting have no idea of the conditions out in the woods.

You say they're wet, well okay, but why are no camp fires allowed in Alexis Creek when they had an inch of rain yesterday?
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Re: Campfire ban lifted

Postby trapp » Sep 5th, 2015, 5:09 pm

Campfire Restriction Orders are never lifted on a week end. There is a District and Zone review at the start of each week and decisions are made at that time.
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Re: Campfire ban lifted

Postby Glacier » Sep 8th, 2015, 6:22 pm

trapp wrote:Campfire Restriction Orders are never lifted on a week end. There is a District and Zone review at the start of each week and decisions are made at that time.

Ban is still in place and it's the beginning of the week... and they had rain on the weekend...
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Re: Campfire ban lifted

Postby maryjane48 » Sep 8th, 2015, 6:30 pm

if theres a ban obey it. pretty simple
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