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Pay parking at beach in Penticton

Re: Pay parking at beach in Penticton

Postby fluffy » Mar 18th, 2017, 10:00 am

There could be some dispute there. Main Street parking is a direct benefit to the businesses there and few others. Those who benefit from a crowded beach are more widespread than the immediate area, and through trickle-down economics include the whole local population to a degree.
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Re: Pay parking at beach in Penticton

Postby Thinktank » Mar 19th, 2017, 5:39 am

It just goes to show you how insane this world is.

I just read in the Vancouver Sun that BC spends $1 billion per year on diabetes drugs. We should subsidize healthy lifestyle. We should NOT make people pay for Okanagan Beach, or Loco Landing (biking) - both healthy things to do. And we should not try to make a buck off Skaha Lake with a waterslide.

It just goes to show you how insane AND GREEDY this world is.

Studies have shown, in cities in USA with (richer) green areas (for walking, biking) etc, people live ten years longer than the poor areas with no green areas.

Humans are nuts, I'm convinced. That $1 billion we spend in BC on diabetes drugs is absurd. We should stop going for the money like greedy pigs, and spend on whatever is healthy.

Keep Okanagan Lake free for all of us . Including the poor.
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Re: Pay parking at beach in Penticton

Postby twobits » Mar 19th, 2017, 2:47 pm

Thinktank wrote:Keep Okanagan Lake free for all of us . Including the poor.


What are you talking about? The Lake and Beach are free to use by anyone. What the dispute here is, is paying to park a vehicle.....not use of the Lake or Beach. If one can afford to buy a vehicle, insure it, pay to operate it, and maintain it then one had better be prepared to have to possibly pay to park it somewhere other than their own driveway sometimes. And I would add to that that my definition of "poor" does not really include anyone that can afford to own and operate a motor vehicle.
Parking is never free anywhere contrary to some peoples beliefs. Some one is always paying for it. Mall tenants pay their share of snow removal, crack filling, lighting, line painting, and eventually asphalt replacement thru their triple net rent payments. Any stand alone business on their own piece of property that has a customer parking lot pays for that parking lot too. Downtown businesses pay a levy for free parking that is part of the property tax notice. Homeowners even actually pay to park at home if they have a driveway or carport. Those driveways or carports were included in the price of the residence.
Why then is it so unreasonable to expect City owned parking spaces to not be able to recoup some of those parking costs? If anything, by not charging at least something for these City parking spots, we are penalizing your truly "poor" people that do not own vehicles cuz they are paying for your free parking costs on their City taxes or a portion of their rent that covers property taxes and will never use a damn parking spot. What's more fair to your "poor" people? That or some token user pay fee?

Edit to add- And if any business feels that they should not have to pay for the parking utilized by their patrons, they are in denial of what parking costs. Smart business people put up signs that offer to deduct the parking fee off of their bill. Stupid business people watch people bypass their business because they are too cheap to pay for their customers parking convenience and prefer the outdated model of taxpayers covering the cost of parking for them.
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Re: Pay parking at beach in Penticton

Postby Thinktank » Mar 20th, 2017, 11:40 am

So what we want to do, to keep this country sane, is to start subsidizing everything that is healthy for people. Parking and walking on OK Lake is healthy. We subsidize it. Parking and swimming on Okanagan Lake is healthy. Subsidize it. Skaha Lake is a healthy thing for people to do - subsidize it.

And then every dumb thing in the world that is not so healthy for people, we tax that. Casions - put up pay parking at Casions and see how that works out for them.

Since 1997, the B.C. Lottery Corporation has paid out more than $400 million in gambling revenues to B.C. casino operators so that they can recoup their capital costs.


^ What does that mean? Anyone know? Can someone explain it for everyone else?

http://globalnews.ca/news/105988/b-c-lo ... o-casinos/
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Re: Pay parking at beach in Penticton

Postby twobits » Mar 20th, 2017, 7:05 pm

Thinktank wrote:

^ What does that mean? Anyone know? Can someone explain it for everyone else?



It could mean that Casino revenues helped pay for that walkway for you to walk on along the beach and pay for your free parking so you didn't have to walk to the beach to go for a walk.
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Re: Pay parking at beach in Penticton

Postby XT225 » Mar 22nd, 2017, 7:28 pm

fall wrote:It is ridiculous, just like you mentioned people will park on Lakeshore and the side streets rather than pay and park at Loco landing or Coyote cruises.
Is this the cities way of making up funds that they pledged to help PIB with garbage removal and other general maintenance of the channel after PIB threatened to charge everyone a fee who floats the channel?
So now anyone wanting to take their kids and teens with cars will have to pay to park in front of the skate park.
I hope they start using local business parking lots and walkways as skate parks more now.


It appears that staff and council have finally listened to the people (guess there wasn't very many of the public speaking up IN favor of the pay parking). Going to back off this year; even remove or bag the Loco Landing and Lakawana park kiosks. You would think a final decision would have been made BEFORE putting those in place. Cart before the horse for sure. Andre Martin has sealed his fate for 2018, no question there. I agree with Martha Stewart on this recent decision: "Its a Good Thing".
With the low Cdn. vs U.S. dollar, tourism, we might just enjoy a banner year in Penticton.

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Re: Pay parking at beach in Penticton

Postby fall » Mar 23rd, 2017, 7:51 pm

Looked like the city was taking out some of the no parking signs at Loco this afternoon. They had several in the back of a truck and one worker was standing in front of one scratching his head figuring out how to deal with it and the yellow cement things around it. The other workers appeared to be on a break.
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Re: Pay parking at beach in Penticton

Postby twobits » Mar 24th, 2017, 7:11 pm

fall wrote:Looked like the city was taking out some of the no parking signs at Loco this afternoon. They had several in the back of a truck and one worker was standing in front of one scratching his head figuring out how to deal with it and the yellow cement things around it. The other workers appeared to be on a break.


The other guys that appeared to be on a break were the supervisor, foreman, and lead hand. The employee scratching his head was the one actually working.
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Re: Pay parking at beach in Penticton

Postby Thinktank » May 10th, 2017, 1:08 pm



@ 2:40 JCV Dude, who says he prefers Penticton to Kelowna, mentions the FREE PARKING.

How dumb can our mayor be, I wonder, to try scrape out a few bucks from every tourist for parking?
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Re: Pay parking at beach in Penticton

Postby fall » May 16th, 2017, 8:16 am

That looks like a busy day downtown. What was it welfare and pension day?
Couldn't help but notice the city guy busy at work near the end lol.
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