Penticton Pool - Builder
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Penticton Pool - Builder
The Penticton Pool problems seem endless and on-the-surface very annoying. I know this time it's just the hot-tub, but really!
Who were the builders? Does the city get reimbursed for the down-times (because it seems pretty egregious). What about the employees during that really long shut-down, do they get paid? Does the city have any recourse for financial compensation from the builder for any loss of employee wages, or revenue?
I surely hope the town seeks some retribution (even it's "in trade" - such as a longer term service contract) with the builder because it feels like someone ought to be accountable.
Who were the builders? Does the city get reimbursed for the down-times (because it seems pretty egregious). What about the employees during that really long shut-down, do they get paid? Does the city have any recourse for financial compensation from the builder for any loss of employee wages, or revenue?
I surely hope the town seeks some retribution (even it's "in trade" - such as a longer term service contract) with the builder because it feels like someone ought to be accountable.
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Seems to me that the longest shut down to date was because all the tile had to be replaced due to slipperiness issues. This would have been the territory of whoever designed the building and spec'd the tile to be used, not necessarily the builder.
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Osoyoos_Familyof4 wrote: Does the city get reimbursed for the down-times (because it seems pretty egregious).
Reimbursed??? Good luck with that since the pool runs an operational deficit. We actually as taxpayers save money every day the pool is shut down.
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Even if the pool is closed because of mechanical issues, are the employees not paid still? Just wondering?
And in regards to the pool being shutdown, it wasn't just the tiles, they fixed the tiles only to have it shut down further because of leaky drains.
And since I have no concept of liability in regards to construction: "If" the design choice (such as tiles that're unsuitable to being wet)? Would the installer (builder) not be responsible for advising that the stylistic choice chosen isn't going to be acceptable? I mean surely aquatic centres are a pretty specific trade no?
And in regards to the pool being shutdown, it wasn't just the tiles, they fixed the tiles only to have it shut down further because of leaky drains.
And since I have no concept of liability in regards to construction: "If" the design choice (such as tiles that're unsuitable to being wet)? Would the installer (builder) not be responsible for advising that the stylistic choice chosen isn't going to be acceptable? I mean surely aquatic centres are a pretty specific trade no?
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Osoyoos_Familyof4 wrote:And since I have no concept of liability in regards to construction: "If" the design choice (such as tiles that're unsuitable to being wet)? Would the installer (builder) not be responsible for advising that the stylistic choice chosen isn't going to be acceptable?
That may be so if the problem is evident before installation, but from what I understand the issue didn't become apparent until after the pool was completed and operating. It makes sense that any liability would rest with those who actually picked out the tile. Unless the tile was supposed to be non-slip and turned out not to be, in which case either the manufacturer of the supplier would be on the hook.
As far as the builder's liability, it would depend on how the contract was written. If the contractor was responsible for design choices, which is not uncommon in "design/build" type contracts, then sure, they should pay for the mistake, but the situation is not so simple as saying "They should have..."
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Osoyoos_Familyof4 wrote:Even if the pool is closed because of mechanical issues, are the employees not paid still? Just wondering?
Not likely. Layoff notices would be issued and the employee's only option then would be to exercise bumping rights within the CUPE agreement.
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fluffy wrote:
That may be so if the problem is evident before installation, but from what I understand the issue didn't become apparent until after the pool was completed and operating. It makes sense that any liability would rest with those who actually picked out the tile.
Ya,am pretty sure that is what happened. The tile met specs for the design/build but it was later realized that the tile used would require an annual or semi annual etching process to remain slip resistant. That cost is what was tipped the scale to eat it and replace the tiles so yes, it was a poor choice of tiles that rests with the City.
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The problem with the gene pool is that there is no lifeguard.
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