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Re: Pre-written by law tickets

Postby fz6adventure » Jan 26th, 2018, 11:55 am

dogspoiler wrote:It's not up to people to pick and choose which laws they will follow, think about that. Laws can be challenged and changed if they are deemed unfair. Ignoring them seldom works.
It's totally ridiculous that this has gone this far.
How would you enforce a Bylaw ?


Unfortunately, laws can't be challenged until they are put into play - that is how it works. Writing laws to target the impoverished is one of the worst forms of government oppression there can be. I know when I come to Penticton I never pay to park, get my parking ticket and never pay them - why would I?

You are right .... it is ridiculous that it has gone this far .......... and will go much, much farther. A good question to ask your mayor and council both now and for the civic election in October is just how much this debacle is costing and why they are/were he%# bent on trying to victimize an impoverished citizen. The only possible winner from all this (excepting the $ for the City's Victoria lawyer) is Mr. Braun.

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Re: Pre-written by law tickets

Postby dogspoiler » Jan 26th, 2018, 12:04 pm

The question of how would you enforce a bylaw is still not answered.
But since you admit to not following the law I could not believe anything you say.
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Re: Pre-written by law tickets

Postby fz6adventure » Jan 26th, 2018, 12:15 pm

dogspoiler wrote:The question of how would you enforce a bylaw is still not answered.


Start by crafting them properly in full compliance with the Charter of Rights and Freedoms. An example of this is that every City will tell you that a bylaw officer can come into your house at will to check for compliance to any particular bylaws .... most people believe them and just let them in. The real answer is that they must have a warrant issued by a judge before they are allowed in. Try going to a judge with a request for a warrant because they might suspect a bylaw is being broken. A mans home is supposed to be his castle and sanctuary from the prying eyes of government.

The only real need for municipal bylaws are for land use to assist in the orderly development of a municipality.

In a country setting there are no bylaws - you just follow the Federal and Provincial law, simple as that.

Now, don't get me going about surveillance cameras!
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Re: Pre-written by law tickets

Postby twobits » Jan 26th, 2018, 8:45 pm

fz6adventure wrote:Start by crafting them properly in full compliance with the Charter of Rights and Freedoms. An example of this is that every City will tell you that a bylaw officer can come into your house at will to check for compliance to any particular bylaws .... most people believe them and just let them in. The real answer is that they must have a warrant issued by a judge before they are allowed in. Try going to a judge with a request for a warrant because they might suspect a bylaw is being broken. A mans home is supposed to be his castle and sanctuary from the prying eyes of government.

The only real need for municipal bylaws are for land use to assist in the orderly development of a municipality.

In a country setting there are no bylaws - you just follow the Federal and Provincial law, simple as that.

Now, don't get me going about surveillance cameras!


And people like you are why our society is going to chit in a handbasket. You are all about individual rights at the expense of the rest of society. Where are the rights of society as a whole entrenched? Ultra liberals make me wonder why I would ever want to fund any kind of social program when the people that funding is directed to just turn around and slap me with a legal bill as a taxpayer.
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Re: Pre-written by law tickets

Postby fz6adventure » Jan 26th, 2018, 8:54 pm

twobits wrote:And people like you are why our society is going to chit in a handbasket. You are all about individual rights at the expense of the rest of society. Where are the rights of society as a whole entrenched? Ultra liberals make me wonder why I would ever want to fund any kind of social program when the people that funding is directed to just turn around and slap me with a legal bill as a taxpayer.


Thank you for the compliment.

Here is the thing though ......... you don't get to choose where your taxes go in funding social programs - the government is looking after your contributions. If you really want to stop the waste that is merely a matter of the ego of some politician or bureaucrat in Penticton, let them know the stupidity of taking a man without a bank account to court over eating a bowl of soup while sitting on a sidewalk.
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Re: Pre-written by law tickets

Postby Drip_Torch » Jan 26th, 2018, 9:16 pm

twobits wrote:You are all about individual rights at the expense of the rest of society. Where are the rights of society as a whole entrenched?


I'm somewhat frustrated with this situation too. If you're looking for a law that will protect you from this kind of abuse, you can find it right here.

Use it wisely my friend.
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Re: Pre-written by law tickets

Postby twobits » Jan 27th, 2018, 4:09 pm

Drip_Torch wrote:I'm somewhat frustrated with this situation too. If you're looking for a law that will protect you from this kind of abuse, you can find it right here.

Use it wisely my friend.


I like to think I do use it wisely my friend. As I am sure you do too. Unfortunately the voter pool in general terms is rather lacking in the effort of being informed voters. It is the weakness of our democratic system. It is too bad as well.
Point in fact. I still know a number of people that vote only on party lines because that is who their parents voted for. Yet you ask them who the leader of that party is, or better yet, the name of the person they voted for representing that party.....and it's a 50/50 chance they will get both correct. What does that say about understanding any presented platform?
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