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Its official city has no war on the homeless!

Its official city has no war on the homeless!

Postby southy » Jan 30th, 2018, 11:58 am

The city has spoken - here ya go: https://www.castanet.net/edition/news-s ... htm#217542

And if you want to see the actual specifics here is one more link from the city officials:
http://www.penticton.ca/assets/City~New ... cement.pdf

I now feel better knowing how tax dollars are being spent on this issue - :cuss: unbelievable.
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Re: Its official city has no war on the homeless!

Postby soupy » Jan 30th, 2018, 3:03 pm

I am new to the city, and this just seems ridiculous. On both sides !!

Braun and his lawyer should be embarrassed at all this attention they are getting.
How many more tickets will be issued this summer before the court case ?
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Re: Its official city has no war on the homeless!

Postby alanjh595 » Jan 30th, 2018, 3:16 pm

The "REactions" of the city will be determined by the "ACTions" of the accused.

The city did NOT act first, they reacted to a problem. Much like the RCMP/police do. IF there is no problem, the law will not REact.

Similarly, to the fire department, they only REact when they are called. How silly would it be for them to show-up and put out a fire before it happened? Somebody must be complaining before the law gets involved.
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Re: Its official city has no war on the homeless!

Postby twobits » Jan 30th, 2018, 6:54 pm

IMO, this is more about Varga getting name recognition for his own interests. Paul is just a convenient pawn in that quest.
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Re: Its official city has no war on the homeless!

Postby RupertBear » Jan 31st, 2018, 6:42 am

I agree. It sure seems that Varga thinks Paul Braun is the second most important Paul in the story.

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Re: Its official city has no war on the homeless!

Postby twobits » Jan 31st, 2018, 5:37 pm

Kinda funny how all the "Paul the homeless" supporters have disappeared now that it is public knowledge that he is not homeless and yet continues his quest for the right to flaunt a City bylaw that applies to every citizen.
IMO, it's too bad that the City can't force this social justice pro bono attention seeking lawyer Varga to pay the bill for this litigation.
I don't agree with the City's use of a Victoria lawyer for this, but Varga should compensate taxpayers for the frivolity of it since his jump to defence has caused this to go to a four day trial.
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Re: Its official city has no war on the homeless!

Postby southy » Jan 31st, 2018, 8:11 pm

The problem I have with this entire ordeal is why did City officials not take an alternative approach to Paul's sit-in? And perhaps and I say perhaps they tried, but something tells me senior staff, the mayor and whatever other councillors decided that using the heavy hand of the law would garner better results from Paul. I wonder who signed off on consulting and hiring this lawyer from Victoria? I wonder at what stage of negotiations with Paul that this occurred? Do we know for fact that lawyer Paul Varga took this case on by himself? Did he wake up one morning, pour himself a cup of java, read the Penticton Herald story about Paul's situation and say ..."gee, this doesn't seem right - I think I will help this man take on the group from the big white building on Main?" Or did Paul, or other individuals contact lawyer Paul Varga and ask what he might be able to do? We don't know these answers do we? We just want to point the finger at Paul Varga and say he is an attention seeking lawyer. Seems to be the case for some. Isn't it also interesting that the city has no problem hiring a Victoria lawyer and moving this issue to court at whatever expense? So to say Paul Varga should pay the bill really doesn't cut it. It goes both ways doesn't it!!

I think it is going to be very interesting to see how this all plays out in court. I hope afterwards that we will all have a better perspective on what really happened prior to, during and after this ends up in court and perhaps, just perhaps there might be a positive outcome to this mess the city of Penticton finds itself in .... again!
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Re: Its official city has no war on the homeless!

Postby twobits » Feb 2nd, 2018, 3:47 pm

southy wrote: Do we know for fact that lawyer Paul Varga took this case on by himself? Did he wake up one morning, pour himself a cup of java, read the Penticton Herald story about Paul's situation and say ..."gee, this doesn't seem right - I think I will help this man take on the group from the big white building on Main?" Or did Paul, or other individuals contact lawyer Paul Varga and ask what he might be able to do? We don't know these answers do we? We just want to point the finger at Paul Varga and say he is an attention seeking lawyer.


Southy?? You disappoint here. It was reported in the media by Varga himself. He is an attention seeking social justice advocate. He's a news snip.......

"Varga is representing Braun pro bono. He said he was speaking with Braun moments after the city subpoenaed him and offered his services.

“Situations like this, where the city is attacking its most vulnerable citizens, I’ve got to step in,” Varga said."
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Re: Its official city has no war on the homeless!

Postby southy » Feb 2nd, 2018, 10:02 pm

Something wrong with social justice?
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Re: Its official city has no war on the homeless!

Postby twobits » Feb 3rd, 2018, 6:31 pm

southy wrote:Something wrong with social justice?


Nothing wrong with social justice southy. What is wrong is people like Varga making it a media circus event. All one need's to ask is could Varga have represented him pro bono without the self serving media play? Could he not have said to Paul...."I will defend your bylaw tickets in court". Why did he have to do a sit in and inflame the situation in the media if it were not for self interest?
Varga is pretty much an ambulance chaser southy.
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