southy wrote:Drop Torch ..Do you realize how arrogant you sound when you say things like
Drip_Torch wrote:This is one of those rare situations when I really have to come out and speak on the city's side. This has been coming down the pipe for a while now, and there has been a voluminous communications effort behind it. Assuming Main Street is the center of the universe, then it would seem Cirero first wrote of the Downtown Penticton revitalization in Section 1.10.33 of "de Finibus Bonorum et Malorum", back around 45 BC:
It’s Drip, but I’m sure you know that, and the short answer is no. The attempt at humour was attached to “assuming Main Street is the center of the universe…”, but there’s more and none of it was meant as a slight towards you. Ironic, is the fact that it was penned out of a similar frustration aimed quite a bit higher.
You know, Cirero was a pretty wise old guy, considering the fact he was scripting texts before Jesus was even born. Cirero’s work, “The extremes of good and evil” has been denigrated over the years and his wisdom, all but lost. Modern day “
de Finibus Bonorum et Malorum” is the basis for
Lorem ipsum, - the randomly generated nonsensically Latin, scrambled to act as a placeholder in contemporary communications efforts. It’s a common tool in today’s engagement tool box and most times the
Lorem ipsum is eventually replaced with meaningful content.
I too will be forthright and accountable for my post. If you think the 300 block revite project is an example of an ineffective communications effort out of the city: - this city, then I’m green with envy. Good grief, let me direct you towards a couple other departments. There, amongst other things, you’ll be confronted with obsessive use of the term
inter alia. You’ll get the pleasure of reading pages and pages of
Lorem ipsum after it’s been ineffectually translated by a google app.
You want to respectfully, or creatively critic the city? Well, I think you’re walking in some pretty damn fertile fields, so why are you slapping at the low hanging fruit? Reach up a bit and grab something good.
For well over twenty years I lived and worked around the greater Vancouver area. One day, I spent four and half hours between hastings and the second narrows bridge stuck in traffic, while managing a crew of 30 plus people, servicing a crew of over 250. All because some guy was having a bad day, and deciding over a cup of tim hortins, whether or not, he was going to jump off the bridge. (What if he won the lottery, a year and a half later, and has never looked back on that day – urgh!)
Here, give me a moment, and I’ll see if I can’t conjure up some empathetically based righteous indignation, based on that experience ----- nope, didn’t happen.
This was the most common back lot that I worked in:
And, now I find myself in a town that’s prosecuting a guy for sitting on the sidewalk; and flying in a lawyer from Victoria to seize a dog. Boy, I imagine those city staffers in Vancouver are sure going to feel dumb, when they see how effectively these social issues can be managed.
Am I thrilled with the main street revite? Sure I am. The bollards, misaligned crosswalks and talking posts, I could do without, but I’m hopeful that by replacing the water mains and putting the infrastructure underground, something – anything, might happen down there. I also happen to think the city might be dodging a big liability bullet, by getting it done.
southy wrote:Oh by the way Drip Torch this is not latin but perhaps a language you still might understand ... a good place to put those intellectual opinions is ... up your *bleep*! And of course I mean that in the nicest possible way.
Yeah, yeah, I rubbed you wrong, and I’m going to decline your suggestion. In the nicest possible way, too.
Look Southy, I get the theme to these posts - all of them, and can’t really find much to disagree with you on, but this – I don’t know. It comes off as petty to me, and seems to be attacking the messenger. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again… There’s some dysfunction, south of that chained off junction in the 100 block of Main Street - no doubt, but there’s also a lot of good people, doing a very good job of getting us the services we need. One of those services is communications and I don’t think the problem, if there even is one in this case, lies with the guy on the job.
Perhaps, I’m just weary of this whole "us vs. them" mindset in this town. Hey everybody, take a good hard look around you – it’s just us, and I’m pretty sure it’s going to stay that way, till at least the middle of June.
twobits wrote:Oh come on drip. That was a totally unnecessary and a rather pompous response.
Yeah, well, - trust me, I’ve authored far stronger "totally unnecessary and pompous responses" this week.
Authentic Drip Torch,
Esse quam videri to the core.
Sorry, I’m not sorry.
(Oh crap, the board just called and I’m stuck with my probationary pentictonite status for a least another year. Oh well - whatever. Circle those wagons and create your safe space – there’s a pompous Liberal quoting 2000 year old Latin loose in the community.)