Urban deer problem or urban human problem ?

Urban deer problem or urban human problem ?

Postby Tootsie » Mar 20th, 2018, 7:52 pm

https://www.castanet.net/edition/news-s ... htm#221621

Not so sure it's an urban deer problem. Seems to me it's more of a urban HUMAN problem.

Mmmm...so let me get this straight. You build housing in urban areas that have been inhabited by deer for hundreds of years and they eat the plants & shrubs you planted. Does that not make you guilty of feeding wildlife? Pretty simple solution - how about zeroscape with stuff deer don't like to eat. No food - they won't hang around long. Put food out - cedars, tulips, etc - yum smorgasbord !

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Re: Urban deer problem or urban human problem ?

Postby lensbaby » Mar 20th, 2018, 11:04 pm

If they don't like it - leave. Pretty simple. Lots of other people who love the whole idea of Okanagan living wanting to move here.

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Re: Urban deer problem or urban human problem ?

Postby JagXKR » Mar 21st, 2018, 9:17 am

Supposedly "deer resistant" plants are no longer so in the city of Penticton. These abominations of nature will now eat almost anything. Any "wild" animal that I can walk up to without it running away is no longer wild. No longer natural. Natural balance is gone as they have no predators to be afraid of. We humans would not want real nature in the city would we? That would mean having cougars, wolves etc walking around as well. That is real nature not the abomination that is currently occurring.
But go ahead and keep looking at Bambi as they are sad and need a hug. I look at them as food. Yum Yum Yum.
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Re: Urban deer problem or urban human problem ?

Postby twobits » Mar 21st, 2018, 7:44 pm

Tootsie wrote:https://www.castanet.net/edition/news-story-221621-21-.htm#221621

Not so sure it's an urban deer problem. Seems to me it's more of a urban HUMAN problem.

Mmmm...so let me get this straight. You build housing in urban areas that have been inhabited by deer for hundreds of years and they eat the plants & shrubs you planted. Does that not make you guilty of feeding wildlife? Pretty simple solution - how about zeroscape with stuff deer don't like to eat. No food - they won't hang around long. Put food out - cedars, tulips, etc - yum smorgasbord !


Get some facts for lords sake. The local deer never foraged in the valley bottom or close to the valley bottom. We didn't encroach their territory. They are browsers, not grasers. There was never any food for them to be in the valley bottom or low elevation lands around Penticton or any other similar community until we habitated the lowlands and planted things they could eat.
We didn't displace their habitat, we created it, with our plantings, a new dependant animal. Not much different than bears that go after our garbage, compost, and fruit. Please get a little understanding of ungulates and their natural habitat before you spew nonsense.
And don't come back with a rebuttal until you have done some research.
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Re: Urban deer problem or urban human problem ?

Postby Tootsie » Mar 21st, 2018, 11:17 pm

Sorry but all the research I need to do is what I see in my backyard. Learned the hard way. Plant tulips - nope. Cedars - hell no they love 'em. Garlic in raised garden beds - yep believe it not not the buggers nipped the scapes off.

Maybe at one time the valley floor was not their normal grazing land but it is NOW. We humans aren't doing anything to discourage them by building developments on their hillsides and planting things they now have a taste for.
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Re: Urban deer problem or urban human problem ?

Postby bidwell2 » Mar 22nd, 2018, 6:57 pm

Don't like wildlife hanging around? Move to the centre of the city. Pretty simple.
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Re: Urban deer problem or urban human problem ?

Postby Bunnyhop » Mar 22nd, 2018, 7:36 pm

bidwell2 wrote:Don't like wildlife hanging around? Move to the centre of the city. Pretty simple.


There is plenty of wildlife in the centre of the city. Coyotes, deer, even bears and cougar have been sighted downtown in recent years.

The deer and coyotes have found the living is easy in town, the bear and cougar have followed for easy meals.
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Re: Urban deer problem or urban human problem ?

Postby twobits » Mar 22nd, 2018, 8:18 pm

Tootsie wrote:Sorry but all the research I need to do is what I see in my backyard. Learned the hard way. Plant tulips - nope. Cedars - hell no they love 'em. Garlic in raised garden beds - yep believe it not not the buggers nipped the scapes off.

Maybe at one time the valley floor was not their normal grazing land but it is NOW. We humans aren't doing anything to discourage them by building developments on their hillsides and planting things they now have a taste for.


We don't live in their traditional habitat. What do you not understand about that? It is just not natural. So we cannot plant our own garlic, tomatoes, lettuce, cabbage......without an 8 ft 4k fence around our property? Kinda makes encouraging people to grow their own food apply to only those that can afford a fence to keep out unnatural animals. Also makes a tomato cost about 20 bucks until the 4k 8ft fence breaks even in 30 yrs!! And what an attractive community with 8 ft wire fences around properties.
Get a grip. Every City Bambi should be roasts and sausage for the people trying to grow their own food and can't afford a deer fortis fence to protect it.
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Re: Urban deer problem or urban human problem ?

Postby tsayta » Apr 4th, 2018, 9:06 pm

Stupid deer. Someone is going to get hurt. One jumped right over my hedge last night and straight into my pool. Drowned
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Re: Urban deer problem or urban human problem ?

Postby Queen K » Apr 4th, 2018, 9:17 pm

That is tramatic, sorry that happened to you Tsayta.
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Re: Urban deer problem or urban human problem ?

Postby Jhunter199 » Apr 4th, 2018, 9:37 pm

tsayta wrote:Stupid deer. Someone is going to get hurt. One jumped right over my hedge last night and straight into my pool. Drowned


Don't let the deer activists find out, they'll probably make you fill it in and plant deer friendly plants since we are on their land :130:

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Re: Urban deer problem or urban human problem ?

Postby twobits » Apr 5th, 2018, 7:35 pm

Queen K wrote:That is tramatic, sorry that happened to you Tsayta.


Am thinking the only traumatic part was the bill the poster had to pay to remove the rodent from the pool, repair the damage to the liner, and dispose of carcass. Likely exceeded the price of an entire side of organic beef.
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Re: Urban deer problem or urban human problem ?

Postby Queen K » Apr 5th, 2018, 7:43 pm

It's a terrible enough thing to find out the urban deer were dining in Chez QK's tulip smorg, nevermind having to remove the whole on the hoof critter from one's pool.
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Re: Urban deer problem or urban human problem ?

Postby blueliner » Apr 5th, 2018, 8:39 pm

bidwell2 wrote:Don't like wildlife hanging around? Move to the centre of the city. Pretty simple.

Then you will just have to deal with the CrackHeads and the homeless :130:

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Re: Urban deer problem or urban human problem ?

Postby Queen K » Apr 5th, 2018, 8:41 pm

blueliner wrote:
bidwell2 wrote:Don't like wildlife hanging around? Move to the centre of the city. Pretty simple.

Then you will just have to deal with the CrackHeads and the homeless :130:


I am practically in the center of town. I have more deer than either. And raccoons.

Every morning I wonder if the QK Diner suited Bambi.
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