Casino Booming Headline Timing.

Casino Booming Headline Timing.

Postby Centurion » Jun 15th, 2018, 2:09 pm

https://www.castanet.net/news/Penticton/228934/Casino-revenues-boom

It seems quite inflammatory to post the headline "Casino revenues boom" while negotiations are taking place. I am sure it's also just a coincidence that this story is posted just before mediation. It makes me wonder if Castanet has a union?
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Re: Casino Booming Headline Timing.

Postby Jflem1983 » Jun 15th, 2018, 5:34 pm

Centurion wrote:https://www.castanet.net/news/Penticton/228934/Casino-revenues-boom

It seems quite inflammatory to post the headline "Casino revenues boom" while negotiations are taking place. I am sure it's also just a coincidence that this story is posted just before mediation. It makes me wonder if Castanet has a union?



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Re: Casino Booming Headline Timing.

Postby twobits » Jun 17th, 2018, 4:31 pm

Jflem1983 wrote:
Unions need to be outlawed


Actually they don't. They do provide a second opinion on workplace wages and conditions that should be transparent. Instead of outlawing unions, the executive and their support staff should be legislated to be on "strike" and receive the same pay as the membership that pays their wages.
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Re: Casino Booming Headline Timing.

Postby Okanagan Gal » Sep 12th, 2018, 4:59 pm

Perhaps if EVERYONE stayed away from the casino, it would help to settle the strike quicker.

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Re: Casino Booming Headline Timing.

Postby soupy » Sep 12th, 2018, 5:31 pm

Okanagan Gal wrote:Perhaps if EVERYONE stayed away from the casino, it would help to settle the strike quicker.


Or maybe if everyone went there it would help settle it quicker ...

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Re: Casino Booming Headline Timing.

Postby burnedatstake » Sep 12th, 2018, 7:21 pm

Jflem1983 wrote:Unions need to be outlawed


i will support that when there is caps on ceo salaries and profits.
the capitalist idea of liberty is that one persons right to profit can be greater than another persons right to live.
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Re: Casino Booming Headline Timing.

Postby burnedatstake » Sep 12th, 2018, 7:28 pm

or caps on profits for corporations and shareholders.
the capitalist idea of liberty is that one persons right to profit can be greater than another persons right to live.
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Re: Casino Booming Headline Timing.

Postby twobits » Sep 13th, 2018, 6:02 pm

burnedatstake wrote:or caps on profits for corporations and shareholders.


Quite obviously you are staunch NDP/Union. Over the years I have taken note that most of the people like yourself....not all....have somehow become so jaded that they have lost touch with reality and just become very bitter souls that just want to strike out at anyone and everything that has a better standard of life than themselves. They attack Corporations without realizing that many receive paychecks from those evil entities.
The further hypocrisy to your minimal reasoning is that you...you yourself....are a shareholder. Just ask your union reps what your pension fund is invested in you dummy.
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Re: Casino Booming Headline Timing.

Postby burnedatstake » Sep 13th, 2018, 7:03 pm

union benefits go back into the immediate economy. whereas ceo and sharholder and corporate shareholdings end up in mysterious panama papers and offshore untaxed. and dont benefit the country unless there are favorable conditions for themselves. which usually means paying little to no taxes and siphoning even more taxpayer monies to subsidize corporate agendas. you only have to look at how angry obama was when much of the bailout monies went to bonuses for abject failures.
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Re: Casino Booming Headline Timing.

Postby Symbonite » Sep 14th, 2018, 1:30 pm

I wonder how the Union people that actually didnt want to go on strike. What are their thoughts
**Disclaimer: The above statement is in my OPINION only.

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Re: Casino Booming Headline Timing.

Postby soupy » Sep 14th, 2018, 2:10 pm

Symbonite wrote:I wonder how the Union people that actually didnt want to go on strike. What are their thoughts


I am sure they are thrilled with having to put in 4 hour shifts as a sign-holder daily for next to nothing.
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Re: Casino Booming Headline Timing.

Postby twobits » Sep 14th, 2018, 5:04 pm

Symbonite wrote:I wonder how the Union people that actually didnt want to go on strike. What are their thoughts


I actually know someone who is in management and is hoping the strike goes on forever. She is making as much money from tips as she does from her salary and she already makes more than hourly paid employee's. For the math challenged.....her wage has been doubled but the union conveniently does not disclose this side income. Go figger.
Maybe a forensic audit of tips claimed to CRS might get the BCGEU back to the table????
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Re: Casino Booming Headline Timing.

Postby burnedatstake » Sep 14th, 2018, 5:32 pm

Symbonite wrote:I wonder how the Union people that actually didnt want to go on strike. What are their thoughts


if the innuendo is that some people who are on strike have a different view of being on strike in the union - then they - like you - have missed the whole point of what the union is for. and why there is a strike - which has been explained adnauseum. those union members are in a democratic system - and had a vote for whether or not to strike. so its not like those who dont agree in a union were hard done by. there was a ton of warning and a process to make sure they prepared for that possibility. no one held a gun to a possible union employees head to get a job where a union is the reality. before you apply you know that is what you sign up for. again - no one held a gun to their head when they signed the papers explaining in great detail what the union obligations would be. but in that package they would have also had an indication of all their benefits as a union member that most other jobs dont have neither. when there is a right wing climate (where there is union oppression and busting) there can be a claim that no one forces people to take a non union job out of necessity. which is true as well. so where does the right wing peanut gallery get off throwing shells about union stuff? they dont have to explain why they pay minimum wage - just because. they just do it.
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Re: Casino Booming Headline Timing.

Postby cv23 » Sep 15th, 2018, 9:37 am

burnedatstake wrote:or caps on profits for corporations and shareholders.

Do you know how much of the casino's profits go to healthcare and communities in BC?
Total revenues from commercial gambling in B.C. were $2.9 billion in 2014/15, excluding horse racing. After expenses, including prize payouts, total government revenues from gambling were about $1.25 billion. This revenue benefits the people and communities across B.C.

https://www2.gov.bc.ca/gov/content/spor ... money-goes

How much money has the BCGEU contributed to the provincial coffers , not just to a certain political party for favors, but to healthcare and other community organizations?

If owning/operating a business is so profitable why don't the unions start/run their own businesses? The union would make huge $$$ from all the enormous profits companies obviously make and their workers would make huge $$$ for themselves and their families as well as contribute mass amounts to the union through dues. There would be far more union members as far more companies would have organized labor forces. Would be a win win for union employees and the unions who represent them.
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Re: Casino Booming Headline Timing.

Postby cv23 » Sep 15th, 2018, 9:42 am

burnedatstake wrote:no one held a gun to a possible union employees head to get a job where a union is the reality.


And they were also told if they didn't sign up with the union the couldn't have the job. Sign up or no job here for you.
How's that not a form of gun to their head?

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