Argo lost the contract

Re: Argo lost the contract

Postby TimmyE » Nov 15th, 2018, 10:16 pm

Where's the outrage? Our flag waving NDP government letting a foreign company clean our roads?? Talking about a double standard where they squawked about the former governments buying foreign built ferries.

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Re: Argo lost the contract

Postby Jflem1983 » Nov 15th, 2018, 10:22 pm

TimmyE wrote:Where's the outrage? Our flag waving NDP government letting a foreign company clean our roads?? Talking about a double standard where they squawked about the former governments buying foreign built ferries.



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Bye bye Argo

Postby tsayta » Nov 15th, 2018, 10:26 pm

Do you really think they are going to try hard to do a decent job this winter now that they have lost the contract? I predict Armageddon

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Re: Argo lost the contract

Postby Tony » Nov 16th, 2018, 6:50 am

It's irrelevant where the company is based from. I seriously doubt if they bring workers in from Spain to clean our roads. Pretty much 99.9% sure all the workers will be local. I live in the Falls, and seriously, the highways weren't horrible. In the community itself, which is also part of their job, it sucked.

Personally, I like the new standards. I drive a lot, and having someone checking roads more frequently doesn't bother me at all, and should, theoretically, improve the conditions, which makes it safer for everyone.

Last winter I went to Trail, and drove through some of the worst conditions I have ever driven through. Emcon (who is the contractor) said they do a great job. They need to be replaced too.

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Re: Argo lost the contract

Postby Bsuds » Nov 16th, 2018, 7:05 am

There is a good possibility that the present Argo employees will be hired by the new company.
So will anything really change?
Time will tell.
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Re: Argo lost the contract

Postby Jflem1983 » Nov 16th, 2018, 7:17 am

Bsuds wrote:There is a good possibility that the present Argo employees will be hired by the new company.
So will anything really change?
Time will tell.



Kinda figure that as well. Excellent post . So now if that pans out. All we did was export the profits. To socialist Spain.
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Re: Argo lost the contract

Postby jimmy4321 » Nov 16th, 2018, 7:21 am

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Re: Argo lost the contract

Postby EdCase » Nov 16th, 2018, 9:17 am

twobits wrote:You really need to use google. This is a company that makes Argo look like a lawn mowing contractor. Will they do a better job than Argo? Don't know. But just because head office is in Spain does not mean they don't already do it all over the planet.


If you’d looked at the Spanish company carefully, you’d have seen that they have no experience in road maintenance; construction, yes, but the two functions are very different. The prequalification process for these bids was a very flawed one with the Minsitry determined to encourage new bidders without much emphasis on their experience. The RFQ documents read exactly like a road construction contract with very little emphasis on road maintenance.
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Re: Argo lost the contract

Postby stuphoto » Nov 16th, 2018, 9:35 am

At this moment I am in the Boundary region, where emcon recently lost their contract to YRB.
From what I can tell YRB just hired most of the old Emcon workers back. Which saves them training expenses or relocating workers so a win win for them.

When I spoke to one of their workers, and said they can't be any worst than emcon that worker said
"Emcon maintained the roads to government standards "
Pretty much telling me that nothing has changed other than the name on the plow.
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Re: Argo lost the contract

Postby Tony » Nov 16th, 2018, 10:15 am

stuphoto wrote:At this moment I am in the Boundary region, where emcon recently lost their contract to YRB.
From what I can tell YRB just hired most of the old Emcon workers back. Which saves them training expenses or relocating workers so a win win for them.

When I spoke to one of their workers, and said they can't be any worst than emcon that worker said
"Emcon maintained the roads to government standards "
Pretty much telling me that nothing has changed other than the name on the plow.


I had a massive discussion via email with Emcon last year on the road from Christina Lake to Trail. It had been snowing, and no plow had touched the road. It doesn't take a genius to figure that out. The road up to the cutoff point where Boundary took over from West Kootenay was a visible line. In the hour and a bit drive, I didn't see one Emcon truck, plow or pickup checking things out. I'm glad they lost the contract.
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Re: Argo lost the contract

Postby soupy » Nov 16th, 2018, 10:29 am

I really don't think what logo is on a truck matters.

People will complain regardless.
Weather can be unpredictable. This is Canada after all.

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Re: Argo lost the contract

Postby pentona » Nov 16th, 2018, 10:52 am

Bsuds wrote:There is a good possibility that the present Argo employees will be hired by the new company.
So will anything really change?
Time will tell.


You could be correct on that. I am trying to recall what occurred when the Dept. of Highways contracted out most of their operations years ago. I "believe" that most of the employees moved over to the new companies but not certain on that. I also think that the Govt. sold a lot of their equipment to these new private companies. Perhaps someone more in the know could chime in.

I would hope that the new company would pay wages close to what Argo pays now. These kinds of jobs are certainly not minimum wage conditions.

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Re: Argo lost the contract

Postby southy » Nov 16th, 2018, 12:14 pm

If there have been problems in the past (and there have) then a full review of management must occur. Policies and enforcement of those policies come from the top down. I don't think anyone is pointing the finger at the drivers, they are simply doing what they've been instructed to do. Not knowing anyone within Argo I can't say for sure that there were internal issues. However, the fact they lost the contract speaks volumes.
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Re: Argo lost the contract

Postby Glacier » Nov 16th, 2018, 12:26 pm

Jflem1983 wrote:If i were an out of a job Argo driver. I would not give a hoot all winter. What they gonna do. Fire me . Already out of a job. Bet half the men quit. Gonna be a gong show this winter. Glad i got a jacked up 4x4 and a second jacked up 4x4.

Nothing changes employment-wise except management. The new contractor always hires the same employees.
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Re: Argo lost the contract

Postby dirtybiker » Nov 16th, 2018, 12:37 pm

^^^Further, it would be wise to do ones very best as an Argo employee.

As it could be used to secure ones position at the new contractors place.
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