Argo lost the contract

Re: Argo lost the contract

Postby Noisy Boater » Nov 17th, 2018, 10:27 am

Thanks J f for your kind words as I am on the Kelowna crew. As a auxillary as is needed plow operator with over 15 yrs exp I can tell you a story or 2!!!! I am off to my regular job soon but will pick this up later. Just for thought employees stay and management is gone. Just as well as management were always in a shiny new 4 door 4x4 loaded truck while the plow guys were driving ancient trucks with over 500k of hard beaten kilos. Makes u wonder where the money goes and why the roads were bad. New contractor wont make any difference. Whats the penalty?? A fine ? Whoop de dooo. That wont improve anything. TTYL.
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Re: Argo lost the contract

Postby Noisy Boater » Nov 17th, 2018, 10:44 am

Glacier wrote:Bankeir? I BEFORE E EXCEPT AFTER C, you Crazy people.

I think its Greta not Greata?? I could be wrong.
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Re: Argo lost the contract

Postby Anonymous123 » Nov 17th, 2018, 11:22 am

It's Greata, as in the Greata Ranch.
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Re: Argo lost the contract

Postby twobits » Nov 17th, 2018, 6:24 pm

Noisy Boater wrote:Thanks J f for your kind words as I am on the Kelowna crew. As a auxillary as is needed plow operator with over 15 yrs exp I can tell you a story or 2!!!! I am off to my regular job soon but will pick this up later. Just for thought employees stay and management is gone. Just as well as management were always in a shiny new 4 door 4x4 loaded truck while the plow guys were driving ancient trucks with over 500k of hard beaten kilos. Makes u wonder where the money goes and why the roads were bad. New contractor wont make any difference. Whats the penalty?? A fine ? Whoop de dooo. That wont improve anything. TTYL.


So management changes but are forced to hire existing BCGEU employee's and the service does not improve?

Maybe then next time we should change the employee half of the equation and see if things improve? Fair is fair no?
Oh, and btw, if these trucks were owned by the drivers, they would get a million k on them before major repair cuz then the driver would give a chit. I own trucks so don't try to BS me.
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Re: Argo lost the contract

Postby Noisy Boater » Nov 17th, 2018, 9:05 pm

twobits wrote:
Noisy Boater wrote:Thanks J f for your kind words as I am on the Kelowna crew. As a auxillary as is needed plow operator with over 15 yrs exp I can tell you a story or 2!!!! I am off to my regular job soon but will pick this up later. Just for thought employees stay and management is gone. Just as well as management were always in a shiny new 4 door 4x4 loaded truck while the plow guys were driving ancient trucks with over 500k of hard beaten kilos. Makes u wonder where the money goes and why the roads were bad. New contractor wont make any difference. Whats the penalty?? A fine ? Whoop de dooo. That wont improve anything. TTYL.


So management changes but are forced to hire existing BCGEU employee's and the service does not improve?

Maybe then next time we should change the employee half of the equation and see if things improve? Fair is fair no?
Oh, and btw, if these trucks were owned by the drivers, they would get a million k on them before major repair cuz then the driver would give a chit. I own trucks so don't try to BS me.

As the case in most companies its usually management that makes the decisions. Employees can only do so much with what they are given to do the job. Employee morale would greatly improve if they had reliable functioning equipment. Nothing worse than starting out with 5 trucks at shift start then have 1 or more go down with some computer glitch that wont let anything work. Trying to get it repaired is impossible because there is rarely a mechanic on duty when needed. Any one with trucking experiance whether o/op or not should know this. Driver shortage is a well known fact. Getting someone to work weekend niteshift is difficult. Lots of us old guys are near retirement. You want a green horn fresh outa driving school looking after the roads. Good luck with that. Dont try and BS me!!!
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Re: Argo lost the contract

Postby twobits » Nov 18th, 2018, 5:04 pm

Noisy Boater wrote: Getting someone to work weekend niteshift is difficult. Lots of us old guys are near retirement. You want a green horn fresh outa driving school looking after the roads. Good luck with that. Dont try and BS me!!!


Nightshift and weekends require premiums. No green horns plowing roads. Need to cut their teeth with experienced drivers first.
BTW, have seen more than enough 20yr drivers who are just plain lazy and beat the chit of of the truck cuz they are not responsible for the repairs. They are usually they guys you see spinning out and busting the drive train when they didn't want to get out of the cab and chain up when they should have.
Truck owners get two types of calls in this context. One good, the other not so good. Good call....hey boss running late, bad conditions and had to chain up or, got to pull over because of conditions. Bad call......hey boss running late, am laying in the ditch can you call a wrecker or, busted a driveshaft universal, differential, etc ......can you call a wrecker.
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Re: Argo lost the contract

Postby GEW » Feb 6th, 2019, 8:42 pm

https://www.merrittherald.com/new-contr ... r-maintena

For those who travel to the coast via the Coq, VSA has lost the contract for most of the coquihalla as well. The new contractor is employee owned and the succession clause (existing employees retain their job and seniority) is in place as well. It will be interesting to see how both new contractors perform next winter.
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Re: Argo lost the contract

Postby Anonymous123 » Mar 14th, 2019, 3:58 pm

Update:

https://www.castanet.net/news/Penticton/251574/New-hwys-contractor-soon

The unionized plow truck drivers, labourers and bridge crews currently working for Argo and JPW in the region will be employed by Acciona under the same collective agreement.
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Re: Argo lost the contract

Postby GordonH » Mar 14th, 2019, 5:07 pm

^^^ Wow... no one from even north america, company from Spain.
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Re: Argo lost the contract

Postby Urban Cowboy » Mar 14th, 2019, 6:22 pm

GordonH wrote:^^^ Wow... no one from even north america, company from Spain.


Fairly certain they are also involved in the Site C construction project.
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Re: Argo lost the contract

Postby twobits » Mar 14th, 2019, 7:39 pm

Urban Cowboy wrote:Fairly certain they are also involved in the Site C construction project.


Yup, they sure are. And a very big company. They assume the same employees and contract. Acciona didn't win this contract, Argo just lost it with some kind of notion of being a preferred existing contractor.
The rules change for next winter as well with far more plowing to asphalt time cycles. If memory serves me, Argo was clearing to asphalt every four hours while this coming winter, it will be every hour.
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Re: Argo lost the contract

Postby Anonymous123 » Mar 14th, 2019, 8:37 pm

GordonH wrote:^^^ Wow... no one from even north america, company from Spain.


No different than SNC Lavalin bidding on contracts in Libya.
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Re: Argo lost the contract

Postby LTD » Mar 14th, 2019, 8:41 pm

the only ones who will miss argo are the body shops

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Re: Argo lost the contract

Postby NachoManRandySalad » Mar 15th, 2019, 7:43 am

Time will tell whether or not this is a good move. Acciona is in it with both feet, having just recently purchased 60+ pieces of heavy equipment from one of the local dealers.

This will be a good shake up for the lies of JPW and OK AG/VSA.

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