Tyee List of Liberal Falsehoods and Scandals
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Tyee List of Liberal Falsehoods and Scandals
https://thetyee.ca/Opinion/2017/04/10/B ... hole-List/
Please read this list carefully and reference in your comments. The frequent and illegal actions of the B C Liberals astound me. They are a rogue government and must be stopped. Christy and her Liberals are destroying our beautiful province for their and their wealthy friends short term gain. Please vote NDP on May 9. Any other vote is a waste, we will have PR in the future but vote NDP this May 9 for the future of ALL British Columbians, not just the Liberal select few.
Please read this list carefully and reference in your comments. The frequent and illegal actions of the B C Liberals astound me. They are a rogue government and must be stopped. Christy and her Liberals are destroying our beautiful province for their and their wealthy friends short term gain. Please vote NDP on May 9. Any other vote is a waste, we will have PR in the future but vote NDP this May 9 for the future of ALL British Columbians, not just the Liberal select few.
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Re: Tyee List of Liberal Falsehoods and Scandals
squire13 wrote:https://thetyee.ca/Opinion/2017/04/10/BC-Liberal-Falsehoods-Scandals-Whole-List/
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The Tyee? Seriously? The actual propaganda arm of the NDP? No, sorry. Can you reference a website that isn't dedicated to promoting alternative facts for the NDP? Anyone that is even somewhat independent? Please???
And your solution is to vote NDP? Really? A party even crappier than then Liberals? The NDP must go, and then we can deal with the Liberals. It's the only way.
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Re: Tyee List of Liberal Falsehoods and Scandals
Wow.......that's quite an extensive list! Unfortunately, the Christy cheerleaders haven't a long enough attention span to read it, and even if they could sit still that long, they would never believe the inconvenient truth about their chosen party.
I've thought of another boondoggle that I don't think was on the list. I'll go back and read it again, just to be sure, and if it's not there, I'll submit it here.
I've thought of another boondoggle that I don't think was on the list. I'll go back and read it again, just to be sure, and if it's not there, I'll submit it here.
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Re: Tyee List of Liberal Falsehoods and Scandals
logicalview wrote:squire13 wrote:https://thetyee.ca/Opinion/2017/04/10/BC-Liberal-Falsehoods-Scandals-Whole-List/
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The Tyee? Seriously? The actual propaganda arm of the NDP? No, sorry. Can you reference a website that isn't dedicated to promoting alternative facts for the NDP? Anyone that is even somewhat independent? Please???
And your solution is to vote NDP? Really? A party even crappier than then Liberals? The NDP must go, and then we can deal with the Liberals. It's the only way.
So your response is to turn a blind eye based on your perception of the source and not to refute of the facts. Good job. Say aren't the BC Liberals currently being investigated by the RCMP for breaking donation rules, one of the underlying concerns being how companies may be buying their way to win influence?
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Re: Tyee List of Liberal Falsehoods and Scandals
The trouble with lists like this is that they quickly lose all credibility when they add in things that are either trivial or not fairly presented. For example, the fact that the Liberals gave severance to people like Martyn Brown who were fired isn't exactly a scandal, now is it? The fact that the premier flies back and forth to her riding, sometimes in a private aircraft, isn't exactly a scandal either. NDP types should concentrate on the things that are true and not trivial.
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Could be a scandal depending on why she was fired. Flying a private jet doesn't come cheap. Was it necessary? Don't know the whole story behind those revelations do you?
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mr.bandaid wrote:Could be a scandal depending on why she was fired. Flying a private jet doesn't come cheap. Was it necessary? Don't know the whole story behind those revelations do you?
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Urbane wrote:The premier, i.e. any premier, is going to be busy with lots of meetings and other events.
That's why she needed that bribe car lease!
She's "busy".
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Lol.
The Tyee....Rafe Mair....and the NDP themselves.
It is like quoting a Fraser Institute report to the BCTF and wondering why they don't take it seriously.
The Tyee....Rafe Mair....and the NDP themselves.
It is like quoting a Fraser Institute report to the BCTF and wondering why they don't take it seriously.
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1) Never reveal all you know
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Re: Tyee List of Liberal Falsehoods and Scandals
Atomoa wrote:Urbane wrote:The premier, i.e. any premier, is going to be busy with lots of meetings and other events.
That's why she needed that bribe car lease!
She's "busy".
can you prove the car was a bribe, or are you just making things up. When you do what you just did have proof that it was a bribe otherwise you are in for lible.
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world2change wrote:
So your response is to turn a blind eye based on your perception of the source and not to refute of the facts.
Show us some facts to refute instead of lunacy posted on NDP propaganda sites sponsored by union cash, and we can talk.
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Provided the allegations are true, it shouldn't really matter what the source is.
For me, the issue of the poor Liberal track record on enforcing workplace safety is one that desperately needs to be addressed. On their watch we've had 2 saw mills blow up, and the largest mining dam breach in Canadian history, yet little (if any) effort to hold anyone to account for what happened (despite fatalities in the saw mill incidents).
The Government itself had a role to play in all of these disasters, yet they too were not fully held to account by the General Public for their actions (or inaction, as the case may be).
This kind of thing is not a Partisan issue, it is a Public Safety Issue, and it is incumbent on ALL of us, regardless of political stripe, not to allow Governments to get away with stuff like this. Yet, in BC, the Government seems to be given a "free pass" on such dreadful behaviour all the time. Why is that?
For me, the issue of the poor Liberal track record on enforcing workplace safety is one that desperately needs to be addressed. On their watch we've had 2 saw mills blow up, and the largest mining dam breach in Canadian history, yet little (if any) effort to hold anyone to account for what happened (despite fatalities in the saw mill incidents).
Four Die, No Charges Laid Due to Botched WorkSafeBC Probe
Robert Luggi, a worker at a Burns Lake sawmill texted his wife from work. “Please pray for me,” he wrote. “I'm going to check something out.” Twenty-seven minutes later Luggi and co-worker Carl Charlie were dead, as the mill exploded into a fireball that injured 20 others. Three months later, in April 2012, two more men died when a sawmill near Prince George blew up. Both explosions were caused by a lethal buildup of dry sawdust. As The Tyee reported, the blasts took place “in a context of work speedup and imperfect regulatory inspections, long, exhausting shifts and work sites covered with fine, flammable dust that should have been cleared away.”
The B.C. government would eventually bring in new rules to improve sawmill safety but declined to mount a public inquiry. No charges were laid against the mills’ owners because the B.C. Criminal Justice Branch decided that WorkSafeBC’s actions and inactions had made successful prosecutions unlikely. Not only had WorkSafeBC failed to warn the mills of the dust buildup, but its investigations into the tragedies were so flawed that the evidence gathered would not be admissible in court, the prosecutors concluded.
As Mount Polley Disaster Hit, AG Was Readying Scathing Report on BC Mine Oversight
To avoid more catastrophes like the 2014 failure of the tailings pond dam at Mount Polley mine, responsibility for regulating mining in B.C. should be taken away from the ministry that also promotes the industry, concluded a report from the province’s auditor general. The Ministry of Energy and Mines’ “role to promote mining development is diametrically opposed to compliance and enforcement," said the report, which found “major gaps in resources, planning and tools” and “too few resources, infrequent inspections, and lack of enforcement” threatened the safety of mines across B.C. Work on the audit was already underway when the Mount Polley disaster happened. BC Liberals deeply cut mine safety inspections when they took government in 2001.
The Government itself had a role to play in all of these disasters, yet they too were not fully held to account by the General Public for their actions (or inaction, as the case may be).
This kind of thing is not a Partisan issue, it is a Public Safety Issue, and it is incumbent on ALL of us, regardless of political stripe, not to allow Governments to get away with stuff like this. Yet, in BC, the Government seems to be given a "free pass" on such dreadful behaviour all the time. Why is that?
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Re: Tyee List of Liberal Falsehoods and Scandals
Merry wrote:Provided the allegations are true, it shouldn't really matter what the source is.
Exactly. However, if the source is a union-funded website whose sole purpose is to negatively spin everything the Liberals do to appeal to leftist NDP mush-heads, then what is the point of even discussing anything they have to say?
Yet, in BC, the Government seems to be given a "free pass" on such dreadful behaviour all the time. Why is that?
Great point. Why is that. Because we have no Opposition in this province. The NDP must be disbanded, and then finally, something can be done about the Liberals. It's the only way.
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Urbane wrote: For example, the fact that the Liberals gave severance to people like Martyn Brown who were fired isn't exactly a scandal, now is it?
Errrrrrrr...
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logicalview wrote:Merry wrote:Provided the allegations are true, it shouldn't really matter what the source is.
Exactly. However, if the source is a union-funded website whose sole purpose is to negatively spin everything the Liberals do to appeal to leftist NDP mush-heads, then what is the point of even discussing anything they have to say?
Sadly, they don't need to "put a spin" on workplace deaths caused by lack of Government inspection into things like dust levels logical. Or the poor practices followed by Worksafe BC after the event that made it impossible to hold the employers to account.
Ditto for the Government department "dithering" that resulted in it taking years for decisions to be made about the water levels at the Mount Polley dam. Not only did that dam breach result in environmental harm, and the loss of business to local tour operators, it could very easily have also resulted in loss of life (and it's a miracle that it didn't).
At the end of the day, the Government are ultimately responsible for what happened in all of those instances, and they should be held to account for it.
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