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Hunting and fishing during fires

Hunting and fishing during fires

Postby NolaM » Sep 4th, 2017, 5:10 pm

Not sure where to put this:
For all those that suggest staying out of the back country?
Are you realizing the pressure on the food supply that restricted hunters and fishermen
Will put the price of food exponental for the supermarket hunters?

Bow and Jr season started Sept 1, the rest are Sept 10.
So a week from now, the yearly quest for freezer meat REALLY starts.
it was a HUGE part of my upbringing.
I look at the price of meat, the price of feed,
The feeder calves that wont be coming off the plateau next year.
The feed, cattle protection, fences, equipment that is no longer there.
Adding the storm fuel surcharge to every step of the food chain delivery system.
The strain on the wildlife stocks with more predation and less habitat.
Displaced wildlife means interface predator pressure.
Every chicken, pet, hay muncher will be a Bear, Wolf, Cougar target.

http://www2.gov.bc.ca/assets/gov/sports ... egion8.pdf

just tossing that onto the table.
It's a complex integrated issue.
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Re: Hunting and fishing during fires

Postby Queen K » Sep 4th, 2017, 5:12 pm

And please, hunting costs money too.
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Re: Hunting and fishing during fires

Postby trapp » Sep 4th, 2017, 5:39 pm

Hunting season lasts until into November. You just have to bear with the fact that the bush is tinder dry and every precaution is necessary. On my patrols today I came across many hunters asking questions. They are actively hunting with bows and youth. They have faced that fact that they have to be more than "road hunters". Main logging roads are open to travel and you can walk in the bush to hunt. Lets hope for some moist weather before too long.

I may add that many of the guys and gals out there on the fireline are active outdoor people who hunt and fish also. For them right now they can do neither fishing nor hunting.

Be thankful there is not a complete bush closure.
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Re: Hunting and fishing during fires

Postby sulchie » Sep 5th, 2017, 9:19 am

If I have to stay out of the bush with my dirtbike even after I have paid for registration and liability insurance and installed a proper spark arrestor, then obviously it's too dry to be out shooting guns right now.
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Re: Hunting and fishing during fires

Postby NolaM » Sep 5th, 2017, 9:27 am

In my experience, most hunters, fishers and nature users have an appreciation and awareness.
Giving that there is always a 3% idiot component to every group... Facepalm.

Was talking to someone about recycling.
How 50 years ago it was recommended that you smash glass bottles when in the bush.
The idea being that it would revert to sand faster than a whole bottle?
I remember thinking as a kid that it was illogical but.. shrug.. that was the thinking..
Then there was a whole bunch of fires traced back to the coke bottle bases
Refracting sunlight and lighting litter like a magnifying Glass.
Soon after that they started the redeeming and recycling program.

After recalling the quote that change is possible,
but only after this generation dies.
I commented that i would happily put up with a few clueless morons,
Rejoicing in the majority that are slowing groping their way blindly into awareness.
That things we do now will seem illogical years from now.

I was pondering on the critically legacy of teaching a woodsman's code.
There were so many things i learned from fellow bushmen,
Community, stewardship, respect, ethics.
The actual meat was a bonus byproduct of the lifestyle.
Rarely cheaper than supermarket selections.
In our world of re-appreciating "connectivity'
There is nothing like gutting your protein to appreciate the gift of it"s life.

sulchie... Real hunters only use one bullet.
Know what you are sayin", understand your frustration...
However..your dirtbike is recreation, hunting for many is a necessity.

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Re: Hunting and fishing during fires

Postby sulchie » Sep 5th, 2017, 9:37 am

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Re: Hunting and fishing during fires

Postby kgcayenne » Sep 5th, 2017, 10:08 am

I grew up the child of a hunter. Way back then, it was less expensive to harvest from the forest. Today it’s much different. People are different, and the hunting thing is more of a lifestyle choice than it is one of a survival.

A capable 4x4 vehicle and/or a quad – cha ching
Maintenance & Repairs – cha ching
PAL Acquisition – cha ching
Firearm itself – cha ching
Ammunition & fuel for several trips into the bush to learn to shoot accurately – cha ching
Fuel to go hunting - cha ching (you see the price of gas lately?)
Taking the harvest to the butcher – cha ching

The deer population, in case you haven’t noticed, has exploded in the absence of regular hunting. I'm just not convinced that there are enough people suffering such hardship as a result of being told to stay out. Nor am I convinced that their trips to the store for meat are going to disrupt our grocery prices. If anything, I'd believe you instead if you told me that the loss of cattle rangeland due to these fires is going to be the problem.

One more thing, I take my recreation in the parks and forest, it keeps me fit and healthy, and I shoot. I’m not allowed to be in the back country either. I shoot deer with a 200mm f/4 in my back yard instead, there’s a whole herd living nearby, after all.
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Re: Hunting and fishing during fires

Postby NolaM » Sep 5th, 2017, 12:45 pm

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Re: Hunting and fishing during fires

Postby Woodenhead » Sep 5th, 2017, 1:32 pm

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Re: Hunting and fishing during fires

Postby Green-light » Sep 5th, 2017, 2:07 pm

I think if you can hunt and/or fish without creating a spark, then have at 'er.
Bullets might not be the best choice, but a bow can be a good draw (lol).
I've never created a spark by casting a line, so I'd have a hard time not wanting to catch a trout or two if my belly's talkin'.
To some, hunting is a lifestyle choice, but to others there is no choice.
Eating from unknown sources lends your health to the likes of those who cause food related issues we see today.
Whether it's the fat-ademic we see crossing the border from the south, or the steroids sprouting man-boobs at 12, there are those of us that believe the powers that be are slowly poisoning us with bad food and regulations that keep the power out of our own hands.
Say what ya want about hunting being a lifestyle, but the fact is, it's more than a lifestyle to choose natural and keep control over your own body and what goes into it.

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