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Siberian Elms: very destructive, need to be banned

Postby Queen K » Nov 3rd, 2009, 1:38 pm

Do you have a Chinese Elm tree growing in a back ally near you? You know the one, it gives off millions of flatish white seeds every year which oblige their genetic calling by taking root by the hundreds, if not thousands. You pull them up year after year, and oops, if you miss one new seedling one year, next year it is tougher to get rid of.

You see, the City of Kelowna considers these trees to be noxious pest trees. The seeds are opportunists at every level and wreak havoc on the City's boulavards, streets, sewers, culverts, ally ways and anywhere else the pest seeds can take root, which are many. Not to mention your property and the property of your neighbours.

Chinese Elm trees are tough, but their roots systems are even tougher. One long tap roots has layer upon layer of roots fanning out for what seems like miles. If you think you have one layer defeated another three or five layers are directly underneath. Getting rid of a Chinese Elm hedge was hell for me personally, had to bring in a CAT to dig it all out. Even the stump grinders missed alot.

The upshot of it all is that the City will charge you half of the cost of getting rid of a Chinese Elm if the tree is anywhere remotely on your property, but if the noxious tree is on City property, they may concede to remove it at their cost. And that may save YOU alot of work getting rid of seedlings.

PM me for info on who to call if interested.
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Re: Chinese Elm trees (Or Siberian Elms)

Postby gardengirl » Nov 3rd, 2009, 1:48 pm

Can I call to have my neighbour's tree removed?
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Re: Chinese Elm trees (Or Siberian Elms)

Postby Bubalouie » Nov 3rd, 2009, 2:14 pm

My neighbor's too please.
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Re: Chinese Elm trees (Or Siberian Elms)

Postby Lady tehMa » Nov 3rd, 2009, 2:16 pm

I second that question! My back door neighbour actually planted one of those, right beside our fence :7500:
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Re: Chinese Elm trees (Or Siberian Elms)

Postby goalie » Nov 3rd, 2009, 3:06 pm

they must be deported to the gulags with immediate effect
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Re: Chinese Elm trees (Or Siberian Elms)

Postby Nebula » Nov 3rd, 2009, 3:53 pm

We have two Chinese elms in the front yard. The trunks are about four feet or so in diameter. The trees stand about 50 feet high and the crowns are, well, big. Talk about discs. Thank goodness for leaf blowers.
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Re: Chinese Elm trees (Or Siberian Elms)

Postby averagejoe » Nov 3rd, 2009, 4:18 pm

Chinese Elms are just a bad weed! When I moved into my house back in 2000. My nieghbour asked me to cut them down. I said no. I know now what he meant. I have about 10 of them. Their seeds grow everywhere...They grow about 20 feet a year.
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Re: Chinese Elm trees (Or Siberian Elms)

Postby Cumungala » Nov 3rd, 2009, 4:49 pm

Ugh, these trees are even more invasive than the Tree of Heaven. There were two of these trees behind our shed at my old house that were about as round as baseball bats. I choped them down, hacked away at the stumps, dug up some roots and damaged them, dumped weed killer on them, and rapped them in tinfoil and left them for 2 months. When I took the foil off they did not grow back. On the side of our old house, (which is actually city property because it paralells our a road),there was a fair sized one that leaned over our yard. We had two big maples there too so i didnt even know about the elm until last year. Its AWESOME to see that the city is FINALLY doing something about these beasts. Even here in Castlegar, these trees have taken over. These trees are apparentaly REALLY bad in Trail.

Death to the Chinese Elm!!!... and Ailanthus!!!! :hangman: :vampire: :smt070 :smt117
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Re: Chinese Elm trees (Or Siberian Elms)

Postby Queen K » Nov 3rd, 2009, 5:07 pm

gardengirl wrote:Can I call to have my neighbour's tree removed?



Isn't it ironic that a tree even labelled by the City of Kelowna as a noxious pest weed will not be removed by them if it is completely on private property?

The property owner has to bear the brunt of the cost, even though the benefits to the City are huge. I'm "lucky" that half of the tree is on City Property, and that the only reason they know about it is because I spoke up and said something at a neighbourhood planning meeting. Mostly in the context that it will do the owners of Northwood a great favour by getting rid of it because otherwise they would be battling the seedlings like I am. Even today I pulled out seedlings.
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Re: Chinese Elm trees (Or Siberian Elms)

Postby Queen K » Nov 3rd, 2009, 6:05 pm

averagejoe wrote:Chinese Elms are just a bad weed! When I moved into my house back in 2000. My nieghbour asked me to cut them down. I said no. I know now what he meant. I have about 10 of them. Their seeds grow everywhere...They grow about 20 feet a year.


You have 10 of them? That's because the young sapling is extremely difficult to spot, it literally is nearly invisible until it's too late.

After year two their roots are incredibly strong and resilent to attempts to kill them off. The City of Kelowna arborists know this, and yet lay the full cost on the owner to get rid of a Chinese Elm, creating an enertia about the process. Of course the longer one waits, the more expensive and difficult the operation.

I had a naive idea about my Chinese Elm hedge. Dad cut it down to one foot off the ground and I thought I'd keep it pruned back and eventually it will die out. NO NO NO. The shoots it sent off grew incredibly fast and thick. Very difficult to control

Which begs the question: If the City knows that these trees give off so many seeds, then why not help more owners get rid of the tree?
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Re: Chinese Elm trees (Or Siberian Elms)

Postby gardengirl » Nov 3rd, 2009, 6:07 pm

Queen K wrote:
averagejoe wrote:Chinese Elms are just a bad weed! When I moved into my house back in 2000. My nieghbour asked me to cut them down. I said no. I know now what he meant. I have about 10 of them. Their seeds grow everywhere...They grow about 20 feet a year.


You have 10 of them? That's because the young sapling is extremely difficult to spot, it literally is nearly invisible until it's too late.

After year two their roots are incredibly strong and resilent to attempts to kill them off. The City of Kelowna arborists know this, and yet lay the full cost on the owner to get rid of a Chinese Elm, creating an enertia about the process. Of course the longer one waits, the more expensive and difficult the operation.

I had a naive idea about my Chinese Elm hedge. Dad cut it down to one foot off the ground and I thought I'd keep it pruned back and eventually it will die out. NO NO NO. The shoots it sent off grew incredibly fast and thick. Very difficult to control

Which begs the question: If the City knows that these trees give off so many seeds, then why not help more owners get rid of the tree?


Well, in Westbank, you can still cut them off and soak them in ROUNDUP. If it is a large tree, you can drill a hole and pour in Roundup.

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Re: Chinese Elm trees (Or Siberian Elms)

Postby grammafreddy » Nov 3rd, 2009, 6:18 pm

I wouldn't mind some nice shade trees ...
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Re: Chinese Elm trees (Or Siberian Elms)

Postby hutton » Nov 3rd, 2009, 6:51 pm

Could some post a picture or a link to a picture of this tree. I have a tree in our back yard that has long flat seeds???????? I have heard people refer to it by a couple of names but not 'Chinese Elm'?????? So I am not sure what it is.
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Re: Chinese Elm trees (Or Siberian Elms)

Postby gardengirl » Nov 3rd, 2009, 6:55 pm

hutton wrote:Could some post a picture or a link to a picture of this tree. I have a tree in our back yard that has long flat seeds???????? I have heard people refer to it by a couple of names but not 'Chinese Elm'?????? So I am not sure what it is.


Chinese elm has long strands of leaves somewhat like a willow tree. When it goes to seed, it spits out thousands and thousands of dime sized white things like confetti. It's like snow.
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Re: Chinese Elm trees (Or Siberian Elms)

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