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Eastern Grey Squirrel, the new terror.

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Re: Eastern Grey Squirrel, the new terror.

Postby LordEd » Mar 30th, 2015, 4:04 pm

More places to report invasive species than the forum.

https://www.for.gov.bc.ca/hra/invasive- ... asives.htm
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Re: Eastern Grey Squirrel, the new terror.

Postby gman313 » Mar 30th, 2015, 4:08 pm

I ran one over the other day. On Richter by Doyle.

They are really crunchy
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Re: Eastern Grey Squirrel, the new terror.

Postby monroe » Mar 30th, 2015, 7:38 pm

Swoop wrote:...anxiously awaiting the arrival of the Castanet PETA group... ... ...

LOL

Took the words out of my mouth. Save me seat pls.


Funny, Greg055 - yer post reminded me of that movie "The Germans are Coming! " .... only its not Germans ...


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Re: Eastern Grey Squirrel, the new terror.

Postby django » Mar 30th, 2015, 7:49 pm

Aren't pellet rifles illegal to fire within city limits, trapping would be best or at least safest for the neighbors.
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Re: Eastern Grey Squirrel, the new terror.

Postby JLives » Mar 30th, 2015, 7:55 pm

gman313 wrote:I ran one over the other day. On Richter by Doyle.

They are really crunchy


The population has exploded since last year. I used to maybe see one a week. Now I see several a day. I'm pretty sure they are Eastern Gray Squirrel but their fur is black from head to tail.
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Re: Eastern Grey Squirrel, the new terror.

Postby Greg055 » Mar 30th, 2015, 9:18 pm

Sorry, ValB58, but it seems U take things too narrowly and too literally. I reported to the ministry, not Castanet. I asked them for traps. Like, seriously, girl: how is a Castanet forum important to the squirrel count?

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Re: Eastern Grey Squirrel, the new terror.

Postby Swoop » Mar 30th, 2015, 9:42 pm

Greg055 wrote:Sorry, ValB58, but it seems U take things too narrowly and too literally. I reported to the ministry, not Castanet. I asked them for traps. Like, seriously, girl: how is a Castanet forum important to the squirrel count?


...hahaha!!...classic...don't you know - Castanet is like Toronto - it's the center of the universe...

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Re: Eastern Grey Squirrel, the new terror.

Postby Greg055 » Mar 30th, 2015, 9:47 pm

django wrote:Aren't pellet rifles illegal to fire within city limits,

That is correct, but so are traps set within 200 meters of a dwelling, also rendering that solution illegal in most areas of the city. The point is that there is actually nothing we can legally do if we live in the city. The City does nothing. The Regional District does nothing. The Ministry does nothing except count them. So, no one does anything, and the invasive species take over.

And it is not comparable to an invading Tyranny that murders people they don't like. Squirrels are NOT comparable to the bloodthristy ISIL/ISIS/Islamic State. Put down that digital device and Get Real.

Me, I don't care: I see Climate Change as scrambling up the habitats of all animals, so whichever comes out on top a century from now, wins. Right? Considering this POV, environmentalists are obsolete, as protecting habitats becomes mote when Mother Nature herself is scrambling them up. Rabbits? Gerbils? Deer? Gray Squirrels? Rats? You Betcha!

What I care, is that I like and feed the songbirds, and the Grays are their enemies. I used to have tons of birds, but as the Grays multiplied, the songbirds have thinned considerably. So scare tactics changed to kill orders.
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Re: Eastern Grey Squirrel, the new terror.

Postby Greg055 » Mar 30th, 2015, 9:51 pm

Swoop wrote:...anxiously awaiting the arrival of the Castanet PETA group... ... ...


PETA are the problem, not the deer. Speaking of deer, did you know that you are not allowed to scare the deer away from your tulips unless you first acquire a license-to-harass to do so? And then only on your property. The established laws are so stupid, that people who care have little hope but to ignore them. Gray Squirrels are not protected in any legal way, except that there is no legitimate response with city limits. So if you run one over, you have done the songbirds a big favor. Thanks!
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Re: Eastern Grey Squirrel, the new terror.

Postby Rwede » Mar 31st, 2015, 9:06 am

JLives wrote:
The population has exploded since last year. I used to maybe see one a week. Now I see several a day. I'm pretty sure they are Eastern Gray Squirrel but their fur is black from head to tail.



Yep, the large black squirrels are indeed Eastern Greys, as are the large grey ones. They come in a few different colour phases, just like a "black" bear does.


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Re: Eastern Grey Squirrel, the new terror.

Postby Hurtlander » Mar 31st, 2015, 9:15 am

Greg055 wrote:That is correct, but so are traps set within 200 meters of a dwelling, also rendering that solution illegal in most areas of the city. .

Not true, you can use live traps to capture the squirrel. But if you don't remember to check the trap for a few days the squirrel sometimes dies. Oh darn..
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Re: Eastern Grey Squirrel, the new terror.

Postby Greg055 » Mar 31st, 2015, 11:44 am

Greg055 wrote:That is correct, but so are traps set within 200 meters of a dwelling, also rendering that solution illegal in most areas of the city. .

Hurtlander wrote:Not true, you can use live traps to capture the squirrel. But if you don't remember to check the trap for a few days the squirrel sometimes dies. Oh darn..

....And then the SPCA is on your back for causing "suffering of an animal." Live traps are cool, as long as you are NOT releasing the squirrel somewhere else. The problem with them is that you now have the extra step of dealing with a live leaping-about-animal that needs to be gassed humanely. I did that once, and prefer not to do it again. A KILL trap is much preferable, as long as you don't also have Browns in the same vicinity.

Also a live trap is relatively expensive (and usually catches cats), and some may not be willing to spend so much $$$ on helping the Ministry deal with Gray squirrels (while the Ministry/City screws them with stupid laws) when they could give to the food bank or take their kid's friends out on an ice cream outing instead. Rat traps are $3.

The Ministry/City/Regional District/SPCA/PETA should supply loaner traps, of the type that THEY prefer to deal with this problem properly. Until then, it's open season until some idiot in a uniform shows up at your door.
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Re: Eastern Grey Squirrel, the new terror.

Postby Swoop » Mar 31st, 2015, 12:05 pm

...lol - oh gawd - don't mention cats/traps/gassing in the same thread around here...

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Re: Eastern Grey Squirrel, the new terror.

Postby Greg055 » Apr 3rd, 2015, 7:59 pm

django wrote:Aren't pellet rifles illegal to fire within city limits,

Indeed, illegal as in City bylaw. But not illegal to fire within your house. The City has no business with you in your basement popping away at a pellet capture target. Now, let's push that a bit farther: if you pop a pellet inside your house and it exits your house out an open window, and there is nothing in the line of sight except a squirrel......
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Re: Eastern Grey Squirrel, the new terror.

Postby Swoop » Apr 3rd, 2015, 8:28 pm

django wrote:Aren't pellet rifles illegal to fire within city limits,
Greg055 wrote:Indeed, illegal as in City bylaw. But not illegal to fire within your house. The City has no business with you in your basement popping away at a pellet capture target. Now, let's push that a bit farther: if you pop a pellet inside your house and it exits your house out an open window, and there is nothing in the line of sight except a squirrel......

...lol - nice try...the term "careless use of a firearm" comes to mind...
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