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Re: Noah's Ark

Postby 1nick » Apr 17th, 2011, 3:54 pm

thats the thing with books you can interprate,bend ,twist, distort the text anyway you like to suit your own agenda
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Re: Noah's Ark

Postby Homeownertoo » Apr 17th, 2011, 4:10 pm

Yes, that can be done, but the attempts are usually transparently fraudulent.
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Re: Noah's Ark

Postby steven lloyd » Apr 17th, 2011, 4:13 pm

Homeownertoo wrote:Yes, that can be done, but the attempts are usually transparently fraudulent.

And yet so many people can be so easily fooled.
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Re: Noah's Ark

Postby Homeownertoo » Apr 17th, 2011, 5:04 pm

Maybe they aren't so transparently fraudulent after all.
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Re: Noah's Ark

Postby Glacier » Sep 14th, 2017, 4:03 pm


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Re: Noah's Ark

Postby Queen K » Sep 14th, 2017, 5:11 pm

I thoroughly enjoyed that vid Glacier. :130:
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Re: Noah's Ark

Postby cliffy1 » Sep 15th, 2017, 6:19 pm

I listened to 2 minutes and found everything he said was fraudulent and couldn't be bothered to listen further. Paleo Indians did not migrate here from Siberia and did not wipe out the mega-fauna. There were human beings living in the Americas from before the Ice Age, the Bering Land Bridge theory has been debunked for at least 25 years and it was climate change, caused by the melting of the ice, that wiped out the mega-fauna.
As to the OP, Noah's arch is a story borrowed from the Sumerian text The Epoch of Gilgamesh, and that was probably borrowed from an even earlier text. The Israelite version was embellished and modified to suit their agenda. The entire OT was written while the Israelites were in captivity in Babylon and probably none of it is authentic, being borrowed from many older civilizations. The same can be said about the NT.
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Re: Noah's Ark

Postby Glacier » Sep 15th, 2017, 7:29 pm

cliffy1 wrote:I listened to 2 minutes and found everything he said was fraudulent a

Me thinks you were too quick to judge. I'm not convinced that he's right about everything he asserts, but like QK, I found it fascinating.

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Re: Noah's Ark

Postby Queen K » Sep 15th, 2017, 7:34 pm

I never knew that the natives on Vancouver Island had a flood story of their own until we went to the Comox museum. Upstairs there is an entire area dedicated to the flood story. I did know that other civilizations around the World have one, just not here.

Once he started to talk about that I thought it was very interesting to hear the rest.

The Bering land bridge theory may or may not be true, the fact is we'll never know for sure.

Cliffy, if you had perservered you'll learn that he goes into the meteorite theory about what changed flora and fauna here on Earth.
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Re: Noah's Ark

Postby cliffy1 » Sep 17th, 2017, 11:23 pm

Every 3 - 500 years there has been tsunamis hit the west coast. Around 1700 was the last one that wiped out 90% of the west coast populations. A vast majority of people live near the oceans and the same was true during the last ice age when the water levels were 400 feet below what they are today. When the glaciers melted it flooded all the coastal areas of the world. That is probably the origin of most of the flood stories.
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Re: Noah's Ark

Postby Glacier » Sep 18th, 2017, 7:48 am

There are just too many flood stories to blame them on tsunamis. The idea of a land bridge is well accepted fact. The idea that this area was ice free while the rest of Canada was covered a mile thick layer of ice is also well established. Having this much ice on land would mean the oceans were 400 feet lower 10,000 years ago.
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Re: Noah's Ark

Postby cliffy1 » Sep 18th, 2017, 1:19 pm

The flood stories came from the melting ice 10 thousand years ago. The tsunamis account for the depopulation of the west coast. It was also recorded and caused havoc in Japan. The two, flooding and tsunamis are separate incidences. There probably was an ice free zone at the Bering straight but it does not make sense that the people would have traversed thousands of miles of mile high ice without a source of food along the way, to a place they did not know existed. More than likely they came along the sea shore by boat or by foot. It is also likely that it was a two way street. The Sturgeon Nose canoe that is indigenous to the Arrow Lakes and the Slocan Valley is only found in one other place on Earth, Siberia just north of Tibet. The only question is - who taught who?
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Re: Noah's Ark

Postby capleton » Oct 29th, 2017, 7:14 pm

The Noah's ark is obviously ripped off from the Sumerian myth of Gilgamesh, only quack fundamentalists would take it literally, the fact that there is no geological evidence for a "great flood" speaks volumes.
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Re: Noah's Ark

Postby averagejoe » Nov 3rd, 2017, 12:37 am

capleton wrote:The Noah's ark is obviously ripped off from the Sumerian myth of Gilgamesh, only quack fundamentalists would take it literally, the fact that there is no geological evidence for a "great flood" speaks volumes.


You and Cliffy should get together and compare notes.... [icon_lol2.gif]

Enjoy your reading.... :smt045

http://www.indians.org/welker/godasiyo.htm

http://www.nwcreation.net/noahlegends.html
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Re: Noah's Ark

Postby capleton » Dec 29th, 2017, 6:10 pm

averagejoe wrote:
capleton wrote:The Noah's ark is obviously ripped off from the Sumerian myth of Gilgamesh, only quack fundamentalists would take it literally, the fact that there is no geological evidence for a "great flood" speaks volumes.


You and Cliffy should get together and compare notes.... [icon_lol2.gif]

Enjoy your reading.... :smt045

http://www.indians.org/welker/godasiyo.htm

http://www.nwcreation.net/noahlegends.html


I'm not going to read creationist nutjob sites, do you have any actual evidence that a Great Flood happened or that there was a Tower of Babel or that donkeys and snakes talk?
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