Why didn't God kill baby Adolf Hitler?

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Why didn't God kill baby Adolf Hitler?

Postby Nomaster » Sep 21st, 2016, 9:10 am

World War 2 was the deadliest military conflict. 60 Million died!
World War II was the deadliest military conflict in history in absolute terms of total dead.[1] Over 60 million people were killed, which was about 3% of the 1940 world population (est. 2.3 billion).[2] The tables below give a detailed country-by-country count of human losses. World War II fatality statistics vary, with estimates of total dead ranging from 50 million to more than 80 million.[3] The higher figure of over 80 million includes deaths from war-related disease and famine. Civilians killed totalled 50 to 55 million, including 19 to 28 million from war-related disease and famine. Total military dead: from 21 to 25 million, including deaths in captivity of about 5 million prisoners of war. SOURCE: WIKIPEDIA

Why would an all-knowing, loving father to ALL Humanity allow this to occur?

I've been aware of the fact for some time that Klara Hitler, Adolf's mother, had a total of 6 children but only two made it to adulthood. Babies 1,2 & 3 died. Baby 4, Adolf, survived infancy, childhood and even the WW1

WHY? Okay, let's hear the Christian apologists.
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Re: Why didn't God kill baby Adolf Hitler?

Postby averagejoe » Sep 21st, 2016, 10:11 am

Nomaster wrote:World War 2 was the deadliest military conflict. 60 Million died!
World War II was the deadliest military conflict in history in absolute terms of total dead.[1] Over 60 million people were killed, which was about 3% of the 1940 world population (est. 2.3 billion).[2] The tables below give a detailed country-by-country count of human losses. World War II fatality statistics vary, with estimates of total dead ranging from 50 million to more than 80 million.[3] The higher figure of over 80 million includes deaths from war-related disease and famine. Civilians killed totalled 50 to 55 million, including 19 to 28 million from war-related disease and famine. Total military dead: from 21 to 25 million, including deaths in captivity of about 5 million prisoners of war. SOURCE: WIKIPEDIA

Why would an all-knowing, loving father to ALL Humanity allow this to occur?

I've been aware of the fact for some time that Klara Hitler, Adolf's mother, had a total of 6 children but only two made it to adulthood. Babies 1,2 & 3 died. Baby 4, Adolf, survived infancy, childhood and even the WW1

WHY? Okay, let's hear the Christian apologists.


Why didn't God kill baby Stalin or baby Mao? Both were Communist atheists...Hitler comes in a poor third to those two?
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Re: Why didn't God kill baby Adolf Hitler?

Postby averagejoe » Sep 21st, 2016, 10:22 am

Maybe the German people were scared to death of this?

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Re: Why didn't God kill baby Adolf Hitler?

Postby averagejoe » Sep 21st, 2016, 10:27 am

This is what pre WW2 Germany was fighting in the streets of Germany and also around most of Europe....

The Comintern,
or Communist International, was an international Communist organization founded by and controlled by the Soviet Union. It was first established in 1919, as a way for the Soviet Union to "export revolution abroad" in its policy of overthrow legitimate regimes; to aid revolutionary Communist parties in other countries and to use foreign Communist parties for espionage and subversion to further Communist goals.

Goals
The openly proclaimed aim of the Comintern was the overthrow of all “capitalist” governments and the establishment of a universal state under Communist dominion. The founding documents of the Comintern explicitly declared that the member parties and movements were to use whatever means, legal or illegal,[1] peaceful or violent, might be appropriate to their situations at any given time.

This was the stark specter facing the non-Communist nations in the decades before World War II: a power covering one-sixth of the earth’s surface had at its command a global movement that was fighting to wrest control of organized labor everywhere, fomenting revolutions in the colonial regions, vying for the allegiance of the western intelligentsia, and planting spies wherever it could—all with the goal of bringing about Bolshevism to the all of the world’s peoples.[2]
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Re: Why didn't God kill baby Adolf Hitler?

Postby youjustcomplain » Sep 21st, 2016, 11:04 am

averagejoe wrote:Why didn't God kill baby Stalin or baby Mao? Both were Communist atheists...Hitler comes in a poor third to those two?


Wait, what relevance does two people, not mentioned in the thread title, reported lack of belief in god have to do with the question?

If that detail concerns you, then, by all means, add their names to the list of people not killed by god.

Nomaster. We have no evidence that god has ever killed anyone, so it's a little strange to ask why he didn't kill Hitler.
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Re: Why didn't God kill baby Adolf Hitler?

Postby Nomaster » Sep 21st, 2016, 11:19 am

The Trolley Experiment.



This is a question of morality, not whether God exists or not.
Obviously Christians believe. we know we can do good or bad because we were given free will. Does he not have free will?

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noun: freewill
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the power of acting without the constraint of necessity or fate; the ability to act at one's own discretion.
synonyms: self-determination, freedom of choice, autonomy, liberty, independence
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Re: Why didn't God kill baby Adolf Hitler?

Postby Nomaster » Sep 21st, 2016, 11:33 am

Were these plotters more moral than a god?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Valkyrie

Kill one and save millions of lives and end the duty of German soldiers to follow immoral orders. (Reichswehreid)

Hmmm. Tough decision.
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Re: Why didn't God kill baby Adolf Hitler?

Postby youjustcomplain » Sep 21st, 2016, 11:39 am

Nomaster wrote:Were these plotters more moral than a god?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Valkyrie

Kill one and save millions of lives and end the duty of German soldiers to follow immoral orders. (Reichswehreid)

Hmmm. Tough decision.


I don't have a moral issue with this one. (I love moral dilemmas)
I find the murder of another human being to be an immoral act, so I would not have murdered Hitler.
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Re: Why didn't God kill baby Adolf Hitler?

Postby Nomaster » Sep 21st, 2016, 11:58 am

I wouldn't have blinked.
Torture and death within concentration camps were common and frequent. 11 million people were killed during the Holocaust (1.1 Million CHILDREN). 6 million of those victims were Jewish. Other groups targeted by the Nazis were Jehovah's Witnesses, homosexuals, disabled people, and Roma.


6 million murdered Jews, 220,000 Roma, at least 70,000 German or Austrian Mentally Ill patients... All murdered by Nazis.
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Re: Why didn't God kill baby Adolf Hitler?

Postby Ranger66 » Sep 21st, 2016, 12:33 pm

“because we were given free will”

Freewill is not a gift, you have freewill or you do not. You can choose not to exercise your freewill but no one can take it away and no one can give it to you.
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Re: Why didn't God kill baby Adolf Hitler?

Postby averagejoe » Sep 21st, 2016, 2:18 pm

God saved Stalin before his Generals got him....

Purge of the Red Army in 1941

Background[edit]
The Great Purge ended in 1939. In October 1940 the NKVD (People's Commissariat of Internal Affairs), under its new chief Lavrenty Beria, started a new purge that initially hit the People's Commissariat of Ammunition, People's Commissariat of Aviation Industry, and People's Commissariat of Armaments. High-level officials admitted guilt, typically under torture, then testified against others. Victims were arrested on fabricated charges of anti-Soviet activity, sabotage, and spying. The wave of arrests in the military-related industries continued well into 1941.

1941 Purge[edit]
In April–May 1941, a Politburo inquiry into the high accident rate in the Air Force led to the dismissal of several commanders, including the head of the Air Force, Lieutenant General Pavel Rychagov. In May, a German Junkers Ju 52 landed in Moscow, undetected by the ADF beforehand, leading to massive arrests among the Air Force leadership.[1] The NKVD soon focused attention on them and began investigating an alleged anti-Soviet conspiracy of German spies in the military, centered around the Air Force and linked to the conspiracies of 1937–1938. Suspects were transferred in early June from the custody of the Military Counterintelligence to the NKVD. Further arrests continued well after the German attack on the Soviet Union, which started on June 22, 1941.

Arrests[edit]
May 30: People's Commissar of Ammunition Ivan Sergeyev and Major General Ernst Schacht
May 31: Lieutenant General Pyotr Pumpur
June 7: People's Commissar of Armaments Boris Vannikov and Colonel General Grigory Shtern
June 8: Lieutenant General Yakov Smushkevich
June 18: Lieutenant General Pavel Alekseyev
June 19: Colonel General Alexander Loktionov
June 24: General Kirill Meretskov and Lieutenant General Pavel Rychagov
June 27: Lieutenant General Ivan Proskurov

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Purge_of_ ... my_in_1941
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Re: Why didn't God kill baby Adolf Hitler?

Postby GordonH » Sep 21st, 2016, 2:55 pm

Stalin estimated 60+ million deaths
Mao estimated 45+ million deaths
Hitler estimated 11+ million deaths

All 3 are scum, end of story.
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Re: Why didn't God kill baby Adolf Hitler?

Postby Even Steven » Sep 21st, 2016, 3:00 pm

Why would God kill somebody who kills lots of people if God himself killed entire planet population in anger before?

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Re: Why didn't God kill baby Adolf Hitler?

Postby Necro » Sep 21st, 2016, 3:30 pm

Even Steven wrote:Why would God kill somebody who kills lots of people if God himself killed entire planet population in anger before?


when did "god" kill an entire population?
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Re: Why didn't God kill baby Adolf Hitler?

Postby Ptolemy Soter » Sep 23rd, 2016, 5:51 pm

*Exhales loudly, slowly through nose.
*Facepalm
I am... the law!

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