We Invented Jesus Christ

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Re: We Invented Jesus Christ

Postby cliffy1 » Oct 23rd, 2016, 3:50 pm

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Re: We Invented Jesus Christ

Postby ferri » Oct 23rd, 2016, 4:19 pm

do not start making it personal and get back on topic please! thank you.
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Re: We Invented Jesus Christ

Postby youjustcomplain » Oct 24th, 2016, 6:53 am

fluffy wrote:I see. You'll make sure they are indoctrinated into the atheist school of thought then?


I'll play with this one Fluffy. :)

Back to the default position of not knowing about god. If we can agree that kids are born without an understanding of god... It makes sense to myself, and likely to all atheists, that teaching kids that god exists and that you are a filthy sinner that needs to be saved isn't such a healthy thing for them. I, as a father of two young kids and as an atheist, do not feel that I'm indoctrinating them into any school of thought. I'm teaching my kids to keep an open mind about things they don't understand; not to conclude that the unknown can be explained away by magic.

Also, atheist isn't a school of thought. it's a lack of belief in a god. Us atheists are not all the same and don't have a common thought, outside of not believing.

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Re: We Invented Jesus Christ

Postby Glacier » Oct 24th, 2016, 8:36 am

youjustcomplain wrote:Us atheists are not all the same and don't have a common thought, outside of not believing.

That's true. The same can be said on the theist side. There's nothing in common outside of believing in something beyond the physical. Unfortunately, the small minority of extremists like the Starbucks cup boy (AKA Steven "pisseth against the wall" Anderson) on the theist side and those few atheists posting the Horus is Jesus bunk are loud and vocal, giving every normal theist and atheist a bad name. Then when confronted with their bunk, they double down as they spiral down into the abyss of perpetual stupidity. That's largely why most non-believers refuse to identify as atheists and why a significant percentage of believers try to distance themselves from religion.
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Re: We Invented Jesus Christ

Postby fluffy » Oct 24th, 2016, 8:39 am

youjustcomplain wrote:I'm teaching my kids to keep an open mind about things they don't understand...


As it should be. Responsible parenting is about giving our children the tools to make informed decisions on their own and without selfish influence from others, including parents.
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Re: We Invented Jesus Christ

Postby Necro » Oct 24th, 2016, 9:51 am

Glacier wrote:Just the pseudoscience of the zeitgeist movies and Horus is Jesus kinda stuff instead?


While I freely admit I was hasty in adding the Horus "comparison" (when actually there isn't one to be made) to the bottom of my second message to this thread, the message itself regarding "borrowing" (or outright theft) of religious practices by christians remains intact.

I have never seen zeitgeist movies.

And yes, I am quite happy creationism has been removed by our Public Schools, aren't you?

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Re: We Invented Jesus Christ

Postby Glacier » Oct 24th, 2016, 9:59 am

Necro wrote:While I freely admit I was hasty in adding the Horus "comparison" (when actually there isn't one to be made) to the bottom of my second message to this thread, the message itself regarding "borrowing" (or outright theft) of religious practices by christians remains intact.

I have never seen zeitgeist movies.

And yes, I am quite happy creationism has been removed by our Public Schools, aren't you?

Yes, obviously.
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Re: We Invented Jesus Christ

Postby Necro » Oct 24th, 2016, 10:06 am

fluffy wrote:I see. You'll make sure they are indoctrinated into the atheist school of thought then?


While I'm not quite sure what you are referring to when you say "atheist school of thought", I believe children should be free to make their own choice, as no-one has the right to force their beliefs on the most vulnerable of minds.

I also believe "faith" is the absence of critical thought, and we should be teaching children to question not only the physical world/universe we inhabit, but the philosophies handed down to us by notable figures in human history.

As far as your apparent need to continually move the goalposts without addressing any of my responses, or the topic at hand, I would ask for at least a modest contribution to the discussion.
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Re: We Invented Jesus Christ

Postby fluffy » Oct 24th, 2016, 2:37 pm

Necro wrote:...I would ask for at least a modest contribution to the discussion.


I'm probably not the best person to ask for comment on the life (or not) of Jesus Christ. I view the Bible as a collection of fictional parables meant more to convey a moral lesson rather than be an accurate historical account, so it really doesn't matter if he existed or not. It's the strength of the message that matters.

It's reassuring that you give your children the right of individual choice. Should they choose a religious path, would you treat them with the same level of respect that you extend to believers on this forum?
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Re: We Invented Jesus Christ

Postby Necro » Oct 26th, 2016, 7:57 am

Nomaster wrote:Do we have evidence for a man named Jesus.


I hope you're not referring to Josephus with this comment.
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Re: We Invented Jesus Christ

Postby Static » Oct 26th, 2016, 8:01 am

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Re: We Invented Jesus Christ

Postby ferri » Oct 26th, 2016, 8:06 am

i started a thread for these. viewtopic.php?f=16&t=69606
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Re: We Invented Jesus Christ

Postby averagejoe » Oct 31st, 2016, 7:48 am

Jesus's tomb opened for first time in centuries

Jerusalem (AFP) - Preservation experts have opened for the first time in at least two centuries what Christians believe is Jesus's tomb inside the Church of the Holy Sepulchre in Jerusalem.

Some of the historic work was witnessed by AFP photographer Gali Tibbon who captured images of the site believed to contain the rock upon which Jesus was laid in around 33 AD as it was uncovered as part of ongoing restoration at the site.

A marble slab covering the site, among the holiest in Christianity, was pulled back for three days as part of both restoration work and archaeological analysis, experts on the scene told AFP.

It was the first time the marble had been removed since at least 1810, when the last restoration work took place following a fire, and possibly earlier, said Father Samuel Aghoyan, the church's Armenian superior.

A painting of Jesus can be seen in the narrow area above where the marble slab was removed.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/jesuss-tomb- ... 34029.html
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Re: We Invented Jesus Christ

Postby Nomaster » Nov 1st, 2016, 10:46 am

Wow, people (who are convinced of oneof the world's myths) took pictures of an area where they are convinced their personal favourite myth took place.



Woo. NEWS.

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Re: We Invented Jesus Christ

Postby maryjane48 » Dec 8th, 2016, 3:18 pm

there is at least ten versions of jesus , maybe he was cloned?
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