50234

Two questions for God

Is there a god? What is the meaning of life?

Re: Two questions for God

Postby youjustcomplain » Nov 28th, 2016, 12:59 pm

JayByrd wrote:Faith isn't about "a need to find comfort in belief". For people of faith, God has revealed Himself to them. Knowing He is there is like knowing gravity is there, you feel it and experience it every day. But if He has not revealed Himself to you, I wouldn't expect you to feel the same.


The rest I agree with, but not this. I know plenty of people who grew up believing, spent most of their lives knowing God was out there and taking care of them, listening to them, helping them, guiding them etc... And something causes these people to abandon God. If God had, infact, revealed HIMself to these people, there really would be no way to turn away. Taking your example, it would be like you, one day, abandoning gravity. We both know you won't because you know gravity is real.

I'd imagine that those, of faith, that have had god revealed to them will not turn away from God ever, as they would have all the evidence they need to know HE exists.

Imo, they suffered a delusion that they can't or don't want to see as such.
youjustcomplain
Board Meister
 
Posts: 592
Likes: 141 posts
Liked in: 313 posts
Joined: Jun 14th, 2016, 11:56 am

Re: Two questions for God

Postby w84u2 » Nov 28th, 2016, 1:56 pm

Human nature dictates that we require all/most of our god given 5 senses be met to believe something is real. Touch, smell, sight, taste, hearing. If most of those requirements are not satisfied, then it is not real. "Belief" is not on the requirement list.

Example: If you can't touch, smell, see, taste your god, then how can one believe? One might be able to hear their god, but if that's all you got then it's 4 to 1 against reality.
Computers allow people to make more mistakes in less time than anything since the invention of tequila and automatic weapons.
User avatar
w84u2
Grand Pooh-bah
 
Posts: 2473
Likes: 1134 posts
Liked in: 945 posts
Joined: Nov 13th, 2016, 4:09 pm

Re: Two questions for God

Postby Poindexter » Nov 28th, 2016, 2:01 pm

^^^ You're discounting the power of persuasion.
User avatar
Poindexter
Lord of the Board
 
Posts: 4967
Likes: 2867 posts
Liked in: 3414 posts
Joined: May 26th, 2008, 10:44 am

Re: Two questions for God

Postby w84u2 » Nov 28th, 2016, 2:11 pm

I hate it when someone tries to persuade me over to their beliefs.
Computers allow people to make more mistakes in less time than anything since the invention of tequila and automatic weapons.
User avatar
w84u2
Grand Pooh-bah
 
Posts: 2473
Likes: 1134 posts
Liked in: 945 posts
Joined: Nov 13th, 2016, 4:09 pm

Re: Two questions for God

Postby Thinktank » Nov 29th, 2016, 5:28 am

But I saw a devil. I felt it. I know it exists.

but I should put that in another thread or else I might
get in trouble.
Ukraine is broke, and undertook a war on that portion of the country that provided 30% of GDP. Now a draft, for an army, for a war, for a government that will - get this - implement IMF/EU *austerity*.
User avatar
Thinktank
Guru
 
Posts: 5921
Likes: 0 post
Liked in: 488 posts
Joined: Nov 5th, 2010, 5:21 am

Re: Two questions for God

Postby Ranger66 » Nov 29th, 2016, 6:19 am

“But I saw a devil.”

Get that thread started.
Ranger66
Übergod
 
Posts: 1496
Likes: 8 posts
Liked in: 230 posts
Joined: Jul 5th, 2007, 10:42 am
Location: West Kelowna

Re: Two questions for God

Postby LANDM » Nov 29th, 2016, 6:46 am

w84u2 wrote:Human nature dictates that we require all/most of our god given 5 senses be met to believe something is real. Touch, smell, sight, taste, hearing. If most of those requirements are not satisfied, then it is not real. "Belief" is not on the requirement list.

You do realize that you have clearly said that belief is not on thee requirement list to believe something, don't you? Do you realize how silly that is?
Believing something is most certainly a requirement to believe something.
LANDM
Guru
 
Posts: 5301
Likes: 1231 posts
Liked in: 2558 posts
Joined: Sep 18th, 2009, 10:58 am

Re: Two questions for God

Postby w84u2 » Nov 29th, 2016, 8:04 am

I'll believe it when/if I see it. Until then, I will believe that it doesn't exist.
Computers allow people to make more mistakes in less time than anything since the invention of tequila and automatic weapons.
User avatar
w84u2
Grand Pooh-bah
 
Posts: 2473
Likes: 1134 posts
Liked in: 945 posts
Joined: Nov 13th, 2016, 4:09 pm

Re: Two questions for God

Postby Glacier » Nov 29th, 2016, 1:03 pm

Thinktank wrote:But I saw a devil. I felt it. I know it exists.

but I should put that in another thread or else I might
get in trouble.

Wait a minute, I thought you WERE the Devil!
User avatar
Glacier
Admiral HMS Castanet
 
Posts: 25915
Likes: 2442 posts
Liked in: 8071 posts
Joined: Jul 6th, 2008, 9:41 pm

Previous

Return to Religion & Spirituality

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest