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Re: John the baptist

Postby averagejoe » Dec 22nd, 2017, 6:45 pm

Jflem1983 wrote:I found this pic. But its not the one i was looking for. It shows them together as youth though.


I'm sure as young children, as most families. Your cousins are your first friends...
Ecclesiastes 10:2 A wise man's heart is at his right hand; but a fool's heart at his left.

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Re: John the baptist

Postby averagejoe » Dec 22nd, 2017, 6:47 pm

Jflem1983 wrote:Anyone wanna talk about who this guy was. Why he baptized Jesus. How that must be difficult for the church leaders to deal with.


I wonder if Jesus taught him since John was family.
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Re: John the baptist

Postby Jflem1983 » Dec 22nd, 2017, 6:58 pm

averagejoe wrote:
Jflem1983 wrote:Anyone wanna talk about who this guy was. Why he baptized Jesus. How that must be difficult for the church leaders to deal with.


I wonder if Jesus taught him since John was family.



Now this is leading into what i was reading last night.
Except it was that Leonardo Davinci may have been a gnostic who believed and left hints in commissioned works . That it was John the baptist who was the teacher.

It was quite interesting stuff and if i can find the links in my history i will post them.
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Re: John the baptist

Postby averagejoe » Dec 22nd, 2017, 7:02 pm

It is written in the ancient annals of England that Jesus's Great Uncle Joseph of Arimathea (Mary's dad's youngest brother) Baptized 1,000's in Wells Britain just outside Glastonbury where Joseph had set up the first Abbey with the help of local King Arviragus from the Suren family.

It is written in the Doomsday book of ancient Britain that Joseph of Arimathea was given 1,200 Hides of land in Glastonbury that were not to be taxed....


See my thread on Glastonbury...

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Re: John the baptist

Postby averagejoe » Dec 22nd, 2017, 7:03 pm

Jflem1983 wrote:
Now this is leading into what i was reading last night.
Except it was that Leonardo Davinci may have been a gnostic who believed and left hints in commissioned works . That it was John the baptist who was the teacher.

It was quite interesting stuff and if i can find the links in my history i will post them.


Do post! Share your findings. :up:
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Re: John the baptist

Postby capleton » Dec 29th, 2017, 6:18 pm

Just another nut job cultist, there were plenty in the Roman Empire at the time.
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Re: John the baptist

Postby averagejoe » Dec 29th, 2017, 6:48 pm

capleton wrote:Just another nut job cultists, there were plenty in the Roman Empire at the time.


Quit being so childish... :up:
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Re: John the baptist

Postby capleton » Dec 29th, 2017, 7:06 pm

averagejoe wrote:
capleton wrote:Just another nut job cultists, there were plenty in the Roman Empire at the time.


Quit being so childish... :up:


Again, you don't know a thing about history do you? The amount of "prophets" and "saviours" who were crawling around the Roman Empire were enormous. It's funny how you call me childish when you are the one who "prays" to some imaginary entity like a child talking to his imaginary friend.
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Re: John the baptist

Postby capleton » Dec 29th, 2017, 7:14 pm

averagejoe wrote:
capleton wrote:Just another nut job cultists, there were plenty in the Roman Empire at the time.


Quit being so childish... :up:


Says the guy who believes in a book that says it is okay to sell a raped woman to her rapist. I guess if it was to you, we would still be wallowing in the Dark ages.
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Re: John the baptist

Postby Jflem1983 » Dec 29th, 2017, 7:22 pm

Please try to keep this thread respectable. It is dealing with a difficult subject. A provocative subject. We can argue without fighting cant we


No need to disrepect people of faith for having faith. Heck some people believe in global warming.
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Re: John the baptist

Postby capleton » Dec 29th, 2017, 8:02 pm

Jflem1983 wrote:Please try to keep this thread respectable. It is dealing with a difficult subject. A provocative subject. We can argue without fighting cant we


No need to disrepect people of faith for having faith. Heck some people believe in global warming.


Unlike faith, global warming actually has something called "evidence" and is backed by numerous sciences.
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Re: John the baptist

Postby averagejoe » Dec 29th, 2017, 8:15 pm

capleton wrote:Again, you don't know a thing about history do you?


Lets have a go...I'm game! :130:

I'll give it the old college try...I can see by your posts that you seem to be very intelligent! :D
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Re: John the baptist

Postby unclemarty » Dec 29th, 2017, 8:24 pm

Yeah great, but do us a favor Joe - take him over to play in the thread he just started: Do Christians
tic...toc...tic...toc...

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Re: John the baptist

Postby unclemarty » Dec 29th, 2017, 9:15 pm

Jflem1983 wrote:Anyone wanna talk about who this guy was. Why he baptized Jesus. How that must be difficult for the church leaders to deal with.


Jflem1983 wrote:Doesnt it seem odd that someone would baptise the living son of god


Jflem1983 wrote:If Jesus was the Messiah. The son of God.
Who gave John the baptist power to baptise Jesus.

In church isnt a baptism done to bring someone into a church.
By being baptized by John the baptist would that suggest Jesus was part of Johns flock ?

It appears he has been nearly scrubbed from history.
That is part of why i feel the church is afraid of him possibly.

One might think a guy who apparently baptized Jesus. Would be more revered today ?


Jflem1983 wrote:Except it was that Leonardo Davinci may have been a gnostic who believed and left hints in commissioned works . That it was John the baptist who was the teacher.


Just by going over what you've posted so far i'm going to assume you haven't read the bible's account? - this may have clarified a few things for you right from the start regarding

- who he was
- who HE thought the Messiah was
- and who he saw himself to be in relation to the one who came to him for immersion

Sounds a bit like you're reading material aimed at bringing a "fresh perspective" to who these characters "really" were. Why else would you think church people might be weirded-out by him. lol

Anyhoo''...just for fun try to find-out;

Who his father was
What "crew" his father belonged to
When that crew was "on duty" (what month? - it was always the same cycle)
What news did he get on that month
What significant event happened 6 months later... and then 9 months after that around the Feast of Sukkot
*surprise*


have fun :D
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Re: John the baptist

Postby capleton » Dec 31st, 2017, 4:31 pm

averagejoe wrote:
capleton wrote:Again, you don't know a thing about history do you?


Lets have a go...I'm game! :130:

I'll give it the old college try...I can see by your posts that you seem to be very intelligent! :D


lol it is funny how you already lost before the minute you started typing
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