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Re: Do Christians

Postby averagejoe » Dec 31st, 2017, 4:22 pm

capleton wrote:Funny how you Christians have predicted Jesus's coming for 2000 years yet you were all wrong.


Revelations has been fulfilled yet....until that happens the Second Coming doesn't happen.

The Holy Bible reveals his Second Coming.
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Re: Do Christians

Postby averagejoe » Dec 31st, 2017, 4:25 pm

You seem to have a great hatred for the Christian religion. Or does that go for all religions? :135:
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Re: Do Christians

Postby capleton » Dec 31st, 2017, 4:27 pm

averagejoe wrote:
capleton wrote:Funny how you Christians have predicted Jesus's coming for 2000 years yet you were all wrong.


Revelations has been fulfilled yet....until that happens the Second Coming doesn't happen.

The Holy Bible reveals his Second Coming.


Yeah I'm sure the many "prophets" revealed his second coming too, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_d ... tic_events
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Re: Do Christians

Postby capleton » Dec 31st, 2017, 4:28 pm

averagejoe wrote:You seem to have a great hatred for the Christian religion. Or does that go for all religions? :135:


Most religion actually, Christianity is just what I am surrounded with and who's followers are trying to impose theocratic laws on the rest of society.
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Re: Do Christians

Postby averagejoe » Dec 31st, 2017, 4:35 pm

How did the 3 Wisemen from the Eastern Empire of Parthia know of Birth of Jesus?

Was Parthia an Israelite Empire?

Did you know most of Jesus's Apostles traveled to Parthia spreading the good word of the Christ?

Rome's rival! Parthia was a great Empire at the time of Christ.
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Re: Do Christians

Postby averagejoe » Dec 31st, 2017, 4:38 pm

capleton wrote:Most religion actually, Christianity is just what I am surrounded with and who's followers are trying to impose theocratic laws on the rest of society.


Your and mine laws are based on the Bible and it's Laws. You and your ancestors have lived in Western Christian Civilization for Millenniums.

That would be why your surround by theocratic laws as you put it.
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Re: Do Christians

Postby capleton » Dec 31st, 2017, 4:42 pm

averagejoe wrote:How did the 3 Wisemen from the Eastern Empire of Parthia know of Birth of Jesus?

Was Parthia an Israelite Empire?

Did you know most of Jesus's Apostles traveled to Parthia spreading the good word of the Christ?

Rome's rival! Parthia was a great Empire at the time of Christ.
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This just shows that Christianity was heavily influenced by Zoroastrianism and other Persian religions, plus the many other mystery religions that were going on at the Roman Empire at the time. Sure Christians spread the faith to Persia but Persia also had many of their religious groups in the Roman Empire.
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Re: Do Christians

Postby averagejoe » Dec 31st, 2017, 4:42 pm

Here is the Magna Carta which was based on the Bible since 1215.

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Re: Do Christians

Postby capleton » Dec 31st, 2017, 4:44 pm

averagejoe wrote:Here is the Magna Carta which was based on the Bible since 1215.

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I really doubt it, the Magna Carta was based on English common law and not on the bible.
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Re: Do Christians

Postby averagejoe » Dec 31st, 2017, 4:57 pm

Please explain this and the connection:
"This just shows that Christianity was heavily influenced by Zoroastrianism".

Zoroastrianism was the Persian religion of the Persian Empire which was destroyed by Alexander the Great.

Scythian Tribes from the Russian Steppes who were Germanic Tribes invaded Parthia 90 years after Alexander the Great Empire. The Parni Tribe (Who Parthia was named after) was a leading Royal Tribe of the Massaegtae Tribe from the East coast of the Caspian Sea. These People had nothing to do with Zoroastrianism. That is why the Parthians were open to Jesus's Apostles.
Parthian's were welcomed by Jews to the different feasts during their time in Judea. This is mentioned in the Bible and in secular history.

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Re: Do Christians

Postby averagejoe » Dec 31st, 2017, 4:59 pm

capleton wrote:I really doubt it, the Magna Carta was based on English common law and not on the bible.


Maybe do some reading instead of answering with no back up proof.....
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Re: Do Christians

Postby capleton » Dec 31st, 2017, 5:08 pm

averagejoe wrote:
capleton wrote:I really doubt it, the Magna Carta was based on English common law and not on the bible.


Maybe do some reading instead of answering with no back up proof.....


I have done plenty of reading, if the Magna carta was based on the Bible then you wouldn't have 600 or more years of serfdom of people all over Europe, in fact all the European rulers would have embraced those ideals, which they never did for a very long time.
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Re: Do Christians

Postby Jflem1983 » Dec 31st, 2017, 5:34 pm

Catholic church built a lot of hospitals in western Canada. Our government back east didnt give a hoot about Saskatchewan or Alberta. So the church stepped in.

Churches have been on both sides of history. Good and bad
Now they want to take our guns away . That would be just fine. Take em away from the criminals first . Ill gladly give u mine. "Charlie Daniels"

You have got to stand for something . Or you will fall for anything "Aaron Tippin"

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Re: Do Christians

Postby Bsuds » Dec 31st, 2017, 5:35 pm

I'm Agnostic.

You can call someone stupid for believing and you can call them stupid for not believing but I say it's really stupid to argue about it and try to change anyone's beliefs.

It's not going to happen.
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Re: Do Christians

Postby fluffy » Dec 31st, 2017, 6:46 pm

I see hardline Christian "believers", actually "believers" of just about any faith that has a conscious deity in its resume, in the same light as atheists. Both are close-minded to alternatives to their own beliefs. The idea that you don't have to justify a negative position is just a cop out.

To take it a point further, I often wonder just what God it is that athiests don't believe in. The cutting edge of quantum physics gets closer to something god-like on a daily basis.
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