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Re: Do Christians

Postby averagejoe » Dec 31st, 2017, 8:20 pm

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I have done plenty of reading, if the Magna carta was based on the Bible then you wouldn't have 600 or more years of serfdom of people all over Europe, in fact all the European rulers would have embraced those ideals, which they never did for a very long time.


So you know your history?

Magna Carta was written in 1215

Magna Carta Libertatum (Medieval Latin for "the Great Charter of the Liberties"), commonly called Magna Carta (also Magna Charta; "(the) Great Charter"),[a] is a charter agreed to by King John of England at Runnymede, near Windsor, on 15 June 1215.[b] First drafted by the Archbishop of Canterbury to make peace between the unpopular King and a group of rebel barons, it promised the protection of church rights, protection for the barons from illegal imprisonment, access to swift justice, and limitations on feudal payments to the Crown, to be implemented through a council of 25 barons.
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Re: Do Christians

Postby daria » Jan 1st, 2018, 8:49 am

averagejoe wrote:What does your god Zeus have to do with Jesus Son of God? Zeus is of Greek myth with no historical record of him?


If you pronounce Jesus as "Hey-Zeus," (since the phonetic "jay" sound didn't exist at that time in Hebrew, Aramaic, Latin or Greek), then the Hellenized version of Jesus's name has more to do with Zeus than you think. His name isn't Jesus anyway, because no Hebrew woman was going to give her son a Greek name after what Antiochus Epiphanes did to the Temple or to the Jewish people. His name in Hebrew is Yeshua. Not only that, he wasn't born on the 25th of December (seriously). That is a pagan holiday adopted by the Catholic Church.
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Re: Do Christians

Postby averagejoe » Jan 1st, 2018, 9:16 am

daria wrote:
If you pronounce Jesus as "Hey-Zeus," (since the phonetic "jay" sound didn't exist at that time in Hebrew, Aramaic, Latin or Greek), then the Hellenized version of Jesus's name has more to do with Zeus than you think. His name isn't Jesus anyway, because no Hebrew woman was going to give her son a Greek name after what Antiochus Epiphanes did to the Temple or to the Jewish people. His name in Hebrew is Yeshua. Not only that, he wasn't born on the 25th of December (seriously). That is a pagan holiday adopted by the Catholic Church.


Yes I am well aware that Jesus's name is Yeshua! And that Dec 25th is not his birthday. But it is celebrated by Christians across Christendom.

Many Israelites from the Dara Tribe of Judah escaped Egypt to Greece before the Exodus. So the connection between Jesus and Zeus could be!
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Re: Do Christians

Postby daria » Jan 1st, 2018, 9:22 am

Do Christians ever stop to think that baptizing pagan holidays and traditions isn't what their God wants them to do?
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Re: Do Christians

Postby Jflem1983 » Jan 1st, 2018, 9:24 am

daria wrote:Do Christians ever stop to think that baptizing pagan holidays and traditions isn't what their God wants them to do?



Have u spoken to God recently ? How do u know what he or she wants
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Re: Do Christians

Postby daria » Jan 1st, 2018, 9:34 am

Since Christians supposedly believe that the entire Bible is true, then they already have their instructions for not including paganism in their worship. See Deuteronomy 12:2-3.
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Re: Do Christians

Postby averagejoe » Jan 1st, 2018, 9:43 am

daria wrote:Do Christians ever stop to think that baptizing pagan holidays and traditions isn't what their God wants them to do?


There are pagan holidays all over the calendar....so easy to cherry pick. :smt045
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Re: Do Christians

Postby averagejoe » Jan 1st, 2018, 9:48 am

daria wrote:Do Christians ever stop to think that baptizing pagan holidays and traditions isn't what their God wants them to do?


Their God being Yahweh! You should know that since you knew Jesus's name.
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Re: Do Christians

Postby daria » Jan 1st, 2018, 9:59 am

I am only pointing out that most Christians celebrate holidays that are not in the Bible (Christmas and Easter), and that they ignore the entirety of their Scriptures (aka cherry-picking which commandments to follow).
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Re: Do Christians

Postby daria » Jan 1st, 2018, 10:00 am

The Tetragrammaton (YHWH) isn't necessarily pronounced Yahweh. It is known as the unpronounceable name for a reason...
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Re: Do Christians

Postby averagejoe » Jan 1st, 2018, 10:02 am

daria wrote:If you pronounce Jesus as "Hey-Zeus," (since the phonetic "jay" sound didn't exist at that time in Hebrew, Aramaic, Latin or Greek), then the Hellenized version of Jesus's name has more to do with Zeus than you think. His name isn't Jesus anyway, because no Hebrew woman was going to give her son a Greek name after what Antiochus Epiphanes did to the Temple or to the Jewish people. His name in Hebrew is Yeshua. Not only that, he wasn't born on the 25th of December (seriously). That is a pagan holiday adopted by the Catholic Church.


As you can see by the Royal Tribe of Judah family tree that Greek/Trojan Kings came out Judah's twin son Zarah via Son Dara who left Egypt for Greece before the Exodus.

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Re: Do Christians

Postby daria » Jan 1st, 2018, 10:03 am

Are you Anglican?
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Re: Do Christians

Postby averagejoe » Jan 1st, 2018, 10:06 am

daria wrote:Are you Anglican?


Nope! No denomination.... :D
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Re: Do Christians

Postby daria » Jan 1st, 2018, 10:12 am

averagejoe wrote:This will be His Throne....Coronation Chair in Westminster Abbey with the Stone of Israel

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Are you sure you're not Anglican?

Also, Revelation 20:11 describes a great white throne, which is very unlike the one you have posted here.
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Re: Do Christians

Postby Bsuds » Jan 1st, 2018, 10:50 am

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