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98.4% of BC has been cooling for the past 15 years

Postby Glacier » Jan 2nd, 2013, 5:16 pm

Arranged from most cooling to least...

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To be clear: this is not just for October, but rather the entire year as of October 2012.


Or if you prefer, alphabetically...
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Re: 98.4% of BC has been cooling for the past 15 years

Postby Corneliousrooster » Jan 2nd, 2013, 7:51 pm

So what?

We live on a globe and there are 12 months in a year.........
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Re: 98.4% of BC has been cooling for the past 15 years

Postby Glacier » Jan 2nd, 2013, 8:53 pm

Corneliousrooster wrote:We live on a globe and there are 12 months in a year.........

Why yes we do, and yes the entire world (on average) has decreased in temperature over the past 15 years. Of course, global warming proponents claimed once upon a time that if we saw 15 years in a row without any warming then they would have to throw their theories out and the window and go back to the drawing board. However, the beauty of the non falsifiable hypothesis means you can merely disregard any false predictions, so it's all good still. :spinball:
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Re: 98.4% of BC has been cooling for the past 15 years

Postby Corneliousrooster » Jan 2nd, 2013, 10:06 pm

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Re: 98.4% of BC has been cooling for the past 15 years

Postby Glacier » Jan 3rd, 2013, 1:20 pm

Here is the graph showing all BC weather stations for the past 15 years...

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Re: 98.4% of BC has been cooling for the past 15 years

Postby Lizard » Jan 3rd, 2013, 7:05 pm

Your graphs are very pretty, but I am not exactly sure what they are showing. On the first two, are the numbers on the left degrees Celsius, with zero being the baseline for average normal temps? What exactly is the third graph? Is it an average of all of the weather stations in BC and a departure from average normal? Sorry if I seem a little dense, but I'm just not getting it.
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Re: 98.4% of BC has been cooling for the past 15 years

Postby Glacier » Jan 3rd, 2013, 10:09 pm

You have got it. The third graph shows the deviation from the 1971-2000 normals. For example, October, 2012, was slightly cooler than the October 1971-2000 average temperature. September, 2012, was about 1 degree above the normal. The 1 degree above normal would be the average of all the stations. Some would be 2 degrees above normal, and some right on normal, but averaging them all out gives the +1 degree above.
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Re: 98.4% of BC has been cooling for the past 15 years

Postby Merry » Jan 4th, 2013, 1:00 pm

So, in other words, there is no evidence to support the "global warming" theory. In fact just the opposite. I wonder why none of the newspaper or tv outlets have bothered to report this? Could it be because far too many people are making far too much money out of selling products or services designed to prevent global warming?
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Re: 98.4% of BC has been cooling for the past 15 years

Postby Glacier » Jan 4th, 2013, 1:10 pm

Lets connect the dots here. Warming stopped in 1997, which is the very same year that Kyoto was adopted. Meanwhile, CO2 is up 58%.

Clearly, signing the Kyoto has stopped global warming. More CO2 is irrelevant. The very act of creating a treaty stopped the warming.

QED.
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Re: 98.4% of BC has been cooling for the past 15 years

Postby ForestfortheTrees » Jan 4th, 2013, 4:25 pm

Glacier--you might want to explore this a little more deeply. Your first graphs come from October only, which does not represent annual climate. The second graph, from what I can see, comes from http://sunshinehours.wordpress.com/ There is no information on where the data comes from or what the methodology is. Not really very compelling stuff. If you are going to challenge the science then you must be scientific about it.

Take a look at http://www.skepticalscience.com/global-cooling-january-2007-to-january-2008-intermediate.htm
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Re: 98.4% of BC has been cooling for the past 15 years

Postby SmokeOnTheWater » Jan 4th, 2013, 4:40 pm

Glacier wrote:Lets connect the dots here. Warming stopped in 1997, which is the very same year that Kyoto was adopted. Meanwhile, CO2 is up 58%.

Clearly, signing the Kyoto has stopped global warming. More CO2 is irrelevant. The very act of creating a treaty stopped the warming.

QED.


Signing a piece of paper stopped global warming ??? Instantly ??? I don't get it.
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Re: 98.4% of BC has been cooling for the past 15 years

Postby zyzzx » Jan 5th, 2013, 10:26 am

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Re: 98.4% of BC has been cooling for the past 15 years

Postby steven lloyd » Jan 5th, 2013, 11:24 am

Glacier wrote: Clearly, signing the Kyoto has stopped global warming. More CO2 is irrelevant.
The very act of creating a treaty stopped the warming.QED.

SmokeOnTheWater wrote: Signing a piece of paper stopped global warming ??? Instantly ??? I don't get it.

Seriously ?!?!? Is deliberate use of sarcasm really that hard to recognize ?

Or did I just get burned by not recognizing the ol' double reverse use of sarcasm ?
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Re: 98.4% of BC has been cooling for the past 15 years

Postby Glacier » Jan 5th, 2013, 11:52 am



Okay, I was a bit off here. In order to account for the natural variations in the climate, measurements have to be at least 17 years long before anyone can declare that warming has stopped. So far it's been 16 years, so there's still time to pull things out of the fire.

https://www.llnl.gov/news/newsreleases/ ... 11-03.html
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