Apple CEO goes crazy when questioned

[slootman]

What the (very small group of) shareholders originally asked for was transparency, which was voted on and overwhelmingly shot down (less than 3% support). What they did to make him blow up was demand that all alternative energy spending be stopped if it didn't line their pockets. Its written in plain english in your first post for crying out loud.

"Responding to calls from the National Centre for Public Policy Research (NCPPR), a conservative think tank and investor, for Apple to refrain from putting money in green energy projects that were not profitable, he shot back that Apple did “a lot of things for reasons besides profit motive”. The chief executive added: “We want to leave the world better than we found it.”

This is hilarious - only 3% support and you make it sound like some grand noble act when its just a small group of extremists making ridiculous demands nobody cares about. It reminds me of the whole president birth certificate noise from other ultra right wingers a few years back, so I suppose what else is new.. The guy in your photo was in that group, wasn't he?

[maryjane48]

Well thank goodness the Conservative Party exists for those who are truly brain dead. Sorry, couldn't resist, so over your dramatic, insulting, outright rude way of speaking to people. I'm not entirely convinced you are a human being but some sort of AI robot that Harper has created in his evil lair that is forbidden from supporting anything not in the instruction manual.

best description yet lol

[maryjane48]

theres 2 types people on earth , those for trying save as much as possible and people like rw and lv

[logicalview]

LV - I did provide you with a rational explanation.

I'll give it one more shot.

If you make underwear, and 50% of the men in North America, for whatever irrational reason, decide that brown underwear with pink polka dots and a rear button flap with a bow on it is the "coolest" thing out there and are willing to pay extra for it - then you make them. Might not make any sense whatsoever, but if that's what the market demands, and the margins are really good, you make them.

HG - I appreciate you attempting to put lipstick on a pig (you are by far the smartest leftist in this thread by a mile and I give you credit for that) and argue the silly notion that Apple is spending money on stupid and useless "Green" projects to create sales, but this is nonsense. Spending millions of shareholder dollars on idiotic farces dreamed up by left-wing People is not what causes sales of a product. What Apple is riding and is still riding is the innovative force of Steve Jobs. With the weak leadership of losers like Tim Cook following him, Apple is clearly doomed.

[logicalview]

best description yet lol

Dumbest description yet LOL

[logicalview]

Well thank goodness the Conservative Party exists for those who are truly brain dead. Sorry, couldn't resist, so over your dramatic, insulting, outright rude way of speaking to people. I'm not entirely convinced you are a human being but some sort of AI robot that Harper has created in his evil lair that is forbidden from supporting anything not in the instruction manual.

And thank goodness the Green and NDP party exist for those that never had a brain to begin with. Your overly simplistic, communist laced blather is vomit inducing Jenny. I am not entirely convinced that you are a human being but some sort of 1980's era Manchurian Candidate that was created by Russians and Cubans in their evil lairs that is forbidden from supporting anything that contains even an ounce of intelligence.

[JLives]

I hate to make your chip have a meltdown but I don't support any party or ideology. I'm a direct democracy supporter. By the people, for the people. All of them. We should vote on issues not people or platforms.

[logicalview]

I hate to make your chip have a meltdown but I don't support any party or ideology. I'm a direct democracy supporter. By the people, for the people. All of them. We should vote on issues not people or platforms.

LOL - you mean you are a direct communist support, by the communist people, for the communist people. We should vote on issues, and as long as the side of communism wins, you're in support of that system. I've seen it all before.

[logicalview]

Tim Cook to Apple Investors: Drop Dead

Apple CEO Tim Cook tells Investors Who Care More About Return on Investment than Climate Change: Your Money is No Longer Welcome

As Board Member Al Gore Cheers the Tech Giant's Dedication to Environmental Activism, Investors Left to Wonder Just How Much Shareholder Value is Being Destroyed in Efforts to Combat "Climate Change"

Free-Market Activist Presents Shareholder Resolution to Computer Giant Apple Calling for Consumer Transparency on Environmental Issues; Company Balks


Cupertino, CA / Washington, D.C. - At today's annual meeting of Apple shareholders in Cupertino, California, Apple CEO Tim Cook informed investors that are primarily concerned with making reasonable economic returns that their money is no longer welcome.
The message came in response to the National Center for Public Policy Research's shareholder resolution asking the tech giant to be transparent about its environmental activism and a question from the National Center about the company's environmental initiatives.

"Mr. Cook made it very clear to me that if I, or any other investor, was more concerned with return on investment than reducing carbon dioxide emissions, my investment is no longer welcome at Apple," said Justin Danhof, Esq., director of the National Center's Free Enterprise Project.

Danhof also asked Apple CEO Tim Cook about the company's green energy pursuits. Danhof asked whether the company's environmental investments increased or decreased the company's bottom line. After initially suggesting that the investments make economic sense, Cook said the company would pursue environmental goals even if there was no economic point at all to the venture. Danhof further asked if the company's projects would continue to make sense if the federal government stopped heavily subsidizing alternative energy. Cook completely ignored the inquiry and became visibly agitated.

Danhof went on to ask if Cook was willing to amend Apple's corporate documents to indicate that the company would not pursue environmental initiatives that have some sort of reasonable return on investment - similar to the concession the National Center recently received from General Electric. This question was greeted by boos and hisses from the Al gore contingency in the room.

"Here's the bottom line: Apple is as obsessed with the theory of so-called climate change as its board member Al Gore is," said Danhof. "The company's CEO fervently wants investors who care more about return on investments than reducing CO2 emissions to no longer invest in Apple. Maybe they should take him up on that advice."

"Although the National Center's proposal did not receive the required votes to pass, millions of Apple shareholders now know that the company is involved with organizations that don't appear to have the best interest of Apple's investors in mind," said Danhof. "Too often investors look at short-term returns and are unaware of corporate policy decisions that may affect long-term financial prospects. After today's meeting, investors can be certain that Apple is wasting untold amounts of shareholder money to combat so-called climate change. The only remaining question is: how much?"

The National Center's shareholder resolution noted that "[s]ome trade associations and business organizations have expanded beyond the promotion of traditional business goals and are lobbying business executives to pursue objectives with primarily social benefits. This may affect Company profitability and shareholder value. The Company's involvement and acquiescence in these endeavors lacks transparency, and publicly-available information about the Company's trade association memberships and related activities is minimal. An annual report to shareholders will help protect shareholder value."

Apple's full 2014 proxy statement is available here. The National Center's proposal, "Report on Company Membership and Involvement with Certain Trade Associations and Business Organizations," appears on page 60.

The National Center filed the resolution, in part, because of Apple's membership in the Retail Industry Leaders Association (RILA), one of the country's largest trade associations. In its 2013 "Retail Sustainability Report," RILA states: "Companies will often develop individual or industry voluntary programs to reduce the need for government regulations. If a retail company minimizes its waste generation, energy and fuel usage, land-use footprint, and other environmental impacts, and strives to improve the labor conditions of the workers across its product supply chains, it will have a competitive advantage when regulations are developed."

"This shows that rather than fighting increased government regulation, RILA is cooperating with Washington, D.C.'s stranglehold on American business in a misguided effort to stop so-called climate change," said Danhof. "That is not an appropriate role for a trade association."

For even more information on RILA, read "The Retail Industry Leaders Association (RILA): A Cartel that Threatens Innovation and Competitiveness," by National Center Senior Fellow Dr. Bonner Cohen.

"Rather than opting for transparency, Apple opposed the National Center's resolution," noted Danhof. "Apple's actions, from hiring of President Obama's former head of the Environmental Protection Agency Lisa Jackson, to its investments in supposedly 100 percent renewable data centers, to Cook's antics at today's meeting, appear to be geared more towards combating so-called climate change rather than developing new and innovative phones and computers."

After Danhof presented the proposal, a representative of CalPERS rose to object and stated that climate change should be one of corporate America's primary concerns, and after she called carbon dioxide emissions a "mortal danger," Apple board member and former vice president Al Gore turned around and loudly clapped and cheered.

"If Apple wants to follow Al Gore and his chimera of climate change, it does so at its own peril," said Danhof. "Sustainability and the free market can work in concert, but not if Al Gore is directing corporate behavior."

"Tim Cook, like every other American, is entitled to his own political views and to be an activist of any legal sort he likes on his own time," said Amy Ridenour, chairman of the National Center for Public Policy Research. "And if Tim Cook, private citizen, does not care that over 95 percent of all climate models have over-forecast the extent of predicted global warming, and wishes to use those faulty models to lobby for government policies that raise prices, kill jobs and *bleep* economic growth and extended lifespans in the Third World, he has a right to lobby as he likes. But as the CEO of a publicly-held corporation, Tim Cook has a responsibility to, consistent with the law, to make money for his investors. If he'd rather be CEO of the Sierra Club or Greenpeace, he should apply."

"As in the past, Cook took but a handful of questions from the many shareholders present who were eager to ask a question at the one meeting a year in which shareholder questions are taken," added Ridenour, "leaving many disappointed. Environmentalism may be a byword at Apple, but transparency surely is not."

The National Center's Free Enterprise Project is a leading free-market corporate activist group. In 2013, Free Enterprise Project representatives attended 33 shareholder meetings advancing free-market ideals in the areas of health care, energy, taxes, subsidies, regulations, religious freedom, media bias, gun rights and many more important public policy issues. Today's Apple meeting was the National Center's third attendance at a shareholder meeting so far in 2014.

The National Center for Public Policy Research is an Apple shareholder, as are National Center executives.

http://www.nationalcenter.org/PR-Apple_ ... 22814.html

[JLives]

LOL - you mean you are a direct communist support, by the communist people, for the communist people. We should vote on issues, and as long as the side of communism wins, you're in support of that system. I've seen it all before.

Please ask your programmer to stop using that word. They do not understand what it means.

[logicalview]

Please ask your programmer to stop using that word. They do not understand what it means.

Yet if you walk like a duck and quack like a duck you will risk being called a duck. As long as you keep labeling me I'll keep labeling you.

Apple CEO Tim Cook has warned climate sceptics and similar dangerous radicals that if they don't like his company's green policies they should "get out of the stock!"

As a big fan of vicious, heartless, red meat capitalism, I salute his brazen honesty. For years, I have been asking myself: "Why am I paying through the nose for kit I might just as well have got at half the price from Samsung, Sony or Nokia?"

And now we have the answer: when you buy a product from Apple you're not just purchasing an overpriced bit of smug, preening, as-used-by-Pajama-Boy-style hardware. You're also making a real commitment to the kind of old-fashioned capitalism you feared they didn't make any more: the kind that says "Screw you, world! All we care about is boosting our bottom line by burnishing our image with the sort of meaningless gestures which go down a treat with our 'sophisticated' bleeding-heart target market."

Every time you buy an iPhone, you're killing a Whooping Crane or a threatened bat species or a Bald Eagle. (Each one sliced and diced, of course, by one of the wind turbines that Apple champions).

Every time you buy an iPad you're driving an elderly couple into fuel poverty and possibly helping them freeze to death in one of these exceptionally mild winters we're having thanks to global warming.

Every time you buy an iBook, you're doing your bit to give children nightmares, cripple the economy with unnecessary taxes, blight the countryside with wind and solar farms, drive up energy prices, give credence the flawed research of intellectually corrupted activist scientists and enrich greedy corporatist speculators with their snouts in the subsidised "renewable" energy trough.

Of course, the figures aren't exact. But the net result of Apple's ostentatious championing of green causes – 75 percent of its energy needs are now allegedly met by renewables; and it recently hired President Obama's compromised former Environmental Protection Agency head Lisa Jackson to supervise its green strategy – is indisputable.
By lending its corporate clout to the promulgation of environmentalist myths about the "climate change" peril, renewable energy and sustainability Apple is definitely making a serious contribution to one of the most poisonously misguided causes of the age.

Nice work, Tim!

http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-Lond ... capitalism

[logicalview]

Here's more on the meeting where Cook went bezerk. It's clear that he's so surrounded by like-minded Yes men and corrupted by Al Gore and his gang of thugs that he didn't really know how to react when confronted by shareholders who are tired of wasting money on stupid useless "renewable" energy sources that do far more harm than good to the environment:

NCPPR’s shareholder proposal would have also required Apple to be more transparent about its role in “certain trade associations and business organizations promoting the amorphous concept of environmental sustainability.”

NCPPR’s Justin Danhof recalled his confrontation with Cook on the issue of Apple’s environmental agenda. He asked if he would consider amending Apple’s corporate documents “to state that the company would only engage in environmental projects where there was some business motive such as a reasonable return on investment.”

“Cook became unhinged,” Danhof told The Daily Caller News Foundation. “The CEO who gave a businesslike presentation about Apple’s past year, absolutely lost it. He said that investors who are simply focused on ROI – like me – should get out of the stock.

“Al Gore and his contingency loudly cheered Cook’s incoherent rant. In all honesty, I was embarrassed for Cook. My guess is he has surrounded himself with friends and yes-men at Apple, and hardly ever receives criticism. Clearly he was unable to handle a slight inquiry into the efficacy and costs of Apple’s environmental program with any dignity.”

Apple has even pledged to get 100 percent of its energy from green sources, like wind and solar. In 2013, the company got 85 percent of its U.S. power from green sources.

Apple was recognized last September by the Environmental Protection Agency for its use of green power, winning a “Green Power Leadership Award” for on-site green energy generation.

“Apple supplies all of its data centers with 100 percent renewable energy though its own projects or through grid-purchased renewable energy,” according to the EPA. “For its largest data center, in Maiden, North Carolina, it has committed to more than 60 percent Apple-owned generation and achieves this by having constructed the nation’s largest end user-owned, solar photovoltaic array — a 20-megawatt (MW) facility on 100 acres of land — and a 10-MW fuel cell installation supplied by directed biogas, the largest non-utility fuel cell installation operating anywhere in the country.”

The company even hired former EPA director Lisa Jackson last year after she left the Obama administration. Former Vice President Al Gore sits on the board of directors.

“Apple is extremely good at looking green,” Amy Ridenour, NCPPR’s chairman, told TheDCNF. “Why is Al Gore on its board? Because of his computer expertise or backside he helps make Apple look green? And why did Apple hire the Obama Administration’s scandal-plagued EPA Administrator? Is it because executives who circumvent transparency laws are highly prized, or because hiring her makes Apple look green?”

“Tim Cook’s statement to us that we could get out of his stock if we don’t share his supposedly global warming-related priorities may have simply been yet another way to make the company look green,” she added.

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2014/03/03/green ... z2v6tqipfZ

[JLives]

It's about time executives put these people in their place. We're past the point to stop listening to their foot stomping and refusal to listen to science for their misguided political reasons and get on with action on how to minimize our effects on our planet. The children can go sit and watch some Fox News while the adults work on fixing this mess.

[hobbyguy]

But they LIKE having their tantrums. Mistaking, of course, the difference between reasoned and rational discussion and their own version - which is simple bellicosity.

The underwear argument I suggested goes right over their ability to deal with the complexities of things. Anything but a "black and white" world that fits their preconceptions? Oops, malfunction.

And heaven forbid that notions like social responsibility should come into the discussion. http://www.navran.com/tools/Oh-Grow-Up.pdf

[logicalview]

It's about time executives put these people in their place. We're past the point to stop listening to their foot stomping and refusal to listen to science for their misguided political reasons and get on with action on how to minimize our effects on our planet. The children can go sit and watch some Fox News while the adults work on fixing this mess.

and there we have enviro-communism summed up in a nutshell. Don't question, don't listen, everyone just shut up and do what you are told by the state, who knows best for you. No matter that wind power is horrible and as far from "green" as nuclear waste. Never mind that the "renewable" movement is fraught with shysters and multiple billions is wasted every year subsidizing mass amounts of fraud. Just shut up, let the communist state control everything, and turn off your brain.

What's funny here is that it used to be leftists that questioned authority and asked "why" to everything. Now THEY are the ones advocating for the status quo and for everyone to become brainless sheep, never questioning anything, no matter how stupid, and no matter how many billions that are wasted. THEY are the ones bent on screwing over the poor by dramatically jacking up energy prices, all for some phantom unproven hypothesis about carbon dioxide. It's disgusting and sickening that the leftists are the ones wanting to stick all of the world's poor into perpetual fuel poverty, and its disgusting that extremely wealthy 1%'ers, like Tim Cook, running mega-billion corporations, are a part of this sham. It's disgusting that more people aren't taking a stand against idiotic business decisions and holding these companies and these brain-dead CEO's accountable. That's what horrible, and that's what has got to change.