Overdose RV hits the streets

[the truth]

you honestly think junkies only harm themselves ?

[voice of reason]

the answer to all your questions is that it is illegal.the govt is paying for people to do illegal things. that is not right. on one hand the govt says heroin/fentynal etc is illegal to possess and trafic but on the other hand they say here are some free needles and a place to shoot up.

[featfan]

Cleaned up the alley behind my work space today.
4 needles, 2 little tin cooking pots lots of little blue water holders and a pile of garbage.
One of my co-workers watched a female crackhead straddle a garbage can Thursday by the Gospel Mission and
take a crap in front of 30-40 people.
Ya we need to feel sorry for them.

[Jonrox]

well i guess we better just give up and start buying junkies drugs so they dont have to steal for a living now.this world is beyond screwed.its too hard to stop it so we better just give in and cater to the bottomfeeders of society. how about no.if you got fentynal on you the go to jail.if you got a needle on you jail.if you are caught selling hard drugs jail punishment not reward.treatment and re-education not enablement.all this liberal bs is doing is making it easier and socially acceptable to be a drug addict

Far from it. I don't think we should give up... that's a terrible attitude. I have no idea what the answer is, but what we're doing and have been doing for a long time obviously isn't working.

"Insanity. doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." - Albert Einstein

All I'm saying is that maybe people need to start being realistic about the illegal drug industry. Some of you seem to think this is a problem that can be beat, but you're living in a dreamland. Your "solutions" are geared towards ridding the world (or at least the country) of illegal drugs, users, and dealers... but it's never going to happen. You really are underestimating the size and scope of this thing. It's just not possible to get rid of it.

Consumer demand for these goods is enormous. The dollar values in play are outrageous. It's an industry measured in the HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS OF DOLLARS and you think things like tougher prison sentences in Canada will actually have an effect? Ridiculous.

[foodsmith]

the answer to all your questions is that it is illegal.the govt is paying for people to do illegal things. that is not right. on one hand the govt says heroin/fentynal etc is illegal to possess and trafic but on the other hand they say here are some free needles and a place to shoot up.

So is it fair to say that you would be completely accepting of the practice of using drugs to satisfy one's addiction if said practice were decriminalized, say, as has been done in some other countries.

It is a straightforward "Yes" or "No" question; however if your answer is "No", I would be very interested to hear how this is so as the logic would contradict the statement quoted above.

Just aiming to understand your true position on this issue, and that is all...

[the truth]

the answer to all your questions is that it is illegal.the govt is paying for people to do illegal things. that is not right. on one hand the govt says heroin/fentynal etc is illegal to possess and trafic but on the other hand they say here are some free needles and a place to shoot up.

correct on every level,and people on here are ok with this

[foodsmith]

Truthy... Same question to you, then.

I await your response.

[Jonrox]

The "it's illegal" argument is what people fall back on when they realize nothing else they've said holds any merit.

[foodsmith]

All you folks pushing for these bone headed feel good ideas . I have an idea . Go downtown . Buy heroin . Give it to a friendly junked out person . There you have reduced crime . Maybe even saved a life if they go use the fancy bus . We can test these theories in real life . With your money

And so far the only solution you offer is suggestion that people actually break the law?

Purchase the very illegal drugs you are speaking against? Engage in the activity you state are causing the very crisis we are talking about ending? Distribute the very substances we are looking to reduce the use of?

And this activity -- engaging incriminal activity -- is supposed to have reduced crime?

Gotta say, JFlem, you tend to be one bass ackwards fella at times... No idea what you are trying to achieve here anymore or even what your stance is on this topic when you choose to just go the route of good, old-fashioned trolling.

[Jonrox]

the answer to all your questions is that it is illegal.the govt is paying for people to do illegal things. that is not right. on one hand the govt says heroin/fentynal etc is illegal to possess and trafic but on the other hand they say here are some free needles and a place to shoot up.

correct on every level,and people on here are ok with this

Maybe because putting drug users away for years does nothing to actually curb the problem and costs a fortune. They still also spend a huge amount of money trying to stop the drug trade... and having little effect. Would you rather see more of your tax dollars spent trying to crackdown on the importers and dealers?

[Jflem1983]

All you folks pushing for these bone headed feel good ideas . I have an idea . Go downtown . Buy heroin . Give it to a friendly junked out person . There you have reduced crime . Maybe even saved a life if they go use the fancy bus . We can test these theories in real life . With your money

And so far the only solution you offer is suggestion that people actually break the law?

Purchase the very illegal drugs you are speaking against? Engage in the activity you state are causing the very crisis we are talking about ending? Distribute the very substances we are looking to reduce the use of?

And this activity -- engaging incriminal activity -- is supposed to have reduced crime?

Gotta say, JFlem, you tend to be one bass ackwards fella at times... No idea what you are trying to achieve here anymore or even what your stance is on this topic when you choose to just go the route of good, old-fashioned trolling.

I'm saying go test your theory take your own hard earned money . Go downtown . Talk to a few people . Make sure to tell them u have money to buy heroin . When you get your dope go find a hard up junkie . Give them the dope . They will be very happy . You will feel so good about your good deed . Preventing crime and saving lives .

[neilsimon]

you honestly think junkies only harm themselves ?

Do you honestly think that they harm you just by shooting up? Most of the other problems are directly linked to the fact that their particular drug of choice is illegal. If they had no reason to commit a crime to get their fix, they probably won't.

[neilsimon]

the answer to all your questions is that it is illegal.the govt is paying for people to do illegal things. that is not right. on one hand the govt says heroin/fentynal etc is illegal to possess and trafic but on the other hand they say here are some free needles and a place to shoot up.

True, there is a degree of contradiction here and of course they should make the drugs legal and regulated, but that ideal is hard to bring about, not least because of international treaties Canada has signed.

[neilsimon]

Cleaned up the alley behind my work space today.
4 needles, 2 little tin cooking pots lots of little blue water holders and a pile of garbage.
One of my co-workers watched a female crackhead straddle a garbage can Thursday by the Gospel Mission and
take a crap in front of 30-40 people.
Ya we need to feel sorry for them.

So, if there was a way to have these people turn their lives around and become productive members of society, would you agree to it, even if it spent our taxes to do so?

[foodsmith]

I'm saying go test your theory take your own hard earned money . Go downtown . Talk to a few people . Make sure to tell them u have money to buy heroin . When you get your dope go find a hard up junkie . Give them the dope . They will be very happy . You will feel so good about your good deed . Preventing crime and saving lives .

What theory are you even referring to here? I've proposed no personal theory whatsoever, friend...

And like it or not you are still proposing that I commit a crime and, by doing so, will be preventing crime and saving a life... Help me with this: How does this not seem completely contradictory to you? Paradoxical, even?