Traffic circles
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Traffic circles
It never fails to amaze me that the powers that be can`t get it right. I am all for traffic circles, they work very well in Europe and in some places in north America. However the one`s that have been built in Kelowna for the most part are a complete joke when it comes to the engineering aspect.Three of them have been built on truck routes (two at the north campus and one on Casorso rd.)none of these can accommodate a truck of average size used in commercial trucking without running up on the inside of the island while entering them and the having to try and scrape your way out of them upon exiting. I`m wondering if the powers that be ever thought about the fact that these are designated truck routes and the turning radius of these LARGE vehicles. Hmmmm I think not! Once again lets give it up for a job well done.
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Re: traffic circles
ldsherwood wrote:It never fails to amaze me that the powers that be can`t get it right. I am all for traffic circles, they work very well in Europe and in some places in north America. However the one`s that have been built in Kelowna for the most part are a complete joke when it comes to the engineering aspect.
I kind of thought the same way.
They appear to be based on far too small of a diameter, almost half the diameter that they should be for safety!
They must be limited to only so much land for the circles and thats it!
Whatever the case is, I agree with you, they are wrong in building them too small!
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IMO they are too small. Actually I posted that concern on one of the posts when they were building the Carsorso one. And add to that a lot of people have no clue how to use them as well. Most dont use their turn signals so its a guessing game which way they go and some think that going onto them gives them the right of way.
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John500 wrote:IMO they are too small. Actually I posted that concern on one of the posts when they were building the Carsorso one. And add to that a lot of people have no clue how to use them as well. Most dont use their turn signals so its a guessing game which way they go and some think that going onto them gives them the right of way.
Well I have to totally agree with you, most haven't got a clue how to move properly through a circle without making every other vehicle driver question what is going to happen when they enter the circle.
Realistically, until an serious accident happens in a circle, nothing will be said to educate those who haven't got a clue, and don't learn about right of ways and signalling in their license handbook when they got their license!
But, it's all par for the course here in Klowntown!
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The biggest problem that i find here is people trying to drive them at high speed. It would be nice if everyone entered them at 20 km/h like you are supposed too. That would allow other traffic approaching to enter the roundabout as well.
People drive so fast around corners here. I wish I owned a tire store. I could retire inside of five years.
People drive so fast around corners here. I wish I owned a tire store. I could retire inside of five years.
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dsldriver wrote:The biggest problem that i find here is people trying to drive them at high speed. It would be nice if everyone entered them at 20 km/h like you are supposed too. That would allow other traffic approaching to enter the roundabout as well.
People drive so fast around corners here. I wish I owned a tire store. I could retire inside of five years.
Do you know why so many drive fast here?
So they have time to text their friends at the Red light they are stuck at!
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couple of comments about the new traffic circles.
One I agree the diameter is a bit too tight, I find it a bit difficult to navigate with a truck and 25ft horse trailer. Unfortunately there are two of the buggers on the way to swamp rd and not much way to avoid them.
two, I think when they decided to install traffic circles in kelowna a brochure or something should have been sent out with instructions on how to use them
I've driven in the UK and Edmonton (before they removed most of them) and I'd have to say very few people use their turn signals properly if at all while navigating the traffic circled intersection.
One I agree the diameter is a bit too tight, I find it a bit difficult to navigate with a truck and 25ft horse trailer. Unfortunately there are two of the buggers on the way to swamp rd and not much way to avoid them.
two, I think when they decided to install traffic circles in kelowna a brochure or something should have been sent out with instructions on how to use them
I've driven in the UK and Edmonton (before they removed most of them) and I'd have to say very few people use their turn signals properly if at all while navigating the traffic circled intersection.
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Be glad we don’t have our version of the MAGIC ROUNDABOUT.
I know some people around here that would become so badly traumatized by this thing that they would do everything in their power to avoid it.
I know some people around here that would become so badly traumatized by this thing that they would do everything in their power to avoid it.
I am a simple man. My complexity evolves from multitudes.
rekabis wrote:Be glad we don’t have our version of the MAGIC ROUNDABOUT
It took a few minutes to realize this must be a European model 'cause they are driving on the 'wrong' side of the road...but after looking it over then it actually seems quite logical..... ...which is why it probably would exact chaos here.
It provides multi-directional traffic control in a confusing intersection based on traffic flow....sounds good.
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John500 wrote:Most dont use their turn signals so its a guessing game which way they go and some think that going onto them gives them the right of way.
When you are in the circle you do have the right of way!!!!!!!
This point is made in any reference I found about proper navigation in traffic circles and roundabouts. Including the BC road sense driver manual.
• Yield to any traffic in the traffic circle. If another vehicle
arrives at the traffic circle at the same time as you do,
yield to the vehicle on your right.