Military policing our streets

Military policing our streets

Postby SurplusElect » Mar 14th, 2013, 10:18 am

New crime fighting vehicle in Kelowna

http://www.castanet.net/edition/news-st ... .htm#88789

It's called a Tactical Armoured Vehicle or TAV - and, it's the latest tool in the RCMP's crime fighting arsenal. The vehicles provide a 360 degree observation tower, advanced ballistic and explosive protection and have impressive off-road capabilities.


Who is lobbing grenades, launching RPG's and shooting at the police with .50 cal rounds?


http://www.aclu.org/militarization

http://www.cato.org/sites/cato.org/file ... r_2006.pdf

Get this crap off our streets. Dress up like a chicken solider, and you will act like one.
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Re: Military policing our streets

Postby underscore » Mar 14th, 2013, 10:20 am

Well someone did blow up a car recently...
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Re: Military policing our streets

Postby gman313 » Mar 14th, 2013, 10:22 am

They were training, not policing. The vehicle is for major incidents, i'm glad they got on. Don't take hostages or murder someone and you should be ok.

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Re: Military policing our streets

Postby SurplusElect » Mar 14th, 2013, 10:23 am

Either employ the military to police our streets or keep a CIVILIAN police force to deal with CIVILIANS.

Ask yourself - why is the military currently not policing our streets?

The vehicle is for major incidents


The RCMP being shelled with Hells Angels artillery? RPG fire?
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Re: Military policing our streets

Postby Fancy » Mar 14th, 2013, 10:28 am

I didn't read that the new equipment would be used policing the streets. It would be used by the ERT team from the sounds of it.
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Re: Military policing our streets

Postby normaM » Mar 14th, 2013, 10:32 am

wth? I suppose they will practice parallel parking in front of the KP's clubhouse.
Don't much care for this on the streets, all a bit too Robocop
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Re: Military policing our streets

Postby JLives » Mar 14th, 2013, 10:33 am

Have we ever had a single incident that would justify the use of this vehicle or are the police just wanting a new toy? It looks like a huge waste of money to me.
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Re: Military policing our streets

Postby SurplusElect » Mar 14th, 2013, 10:33 am

Fancy wrote:I didn't read that the new equipment would be used policing the streets. It would be used by the ERT team from the sounds of it.


The RCMP use their helicopter to chase crackheads.

The minute there is even a slight excuse to break out their new toy, they will use it.

If they need a vehicle like that in a "hypothetical situation", the military should be called in (can only cite one time in North America where the police were outgunned and needed military assistance - North Hollywood Shooting).

The point is - the police are not soldiers, should not be trained like soldiers and should not have theater-of-war equipment to use on our civilian public streets.

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Re: Military policing our streets

Postby Nebula » Mar 14th, 2013, 10:34 am

This thread is nothing but fear mongering.

'Military policing our streets'. Phffft. There is no military policing our streets.

Perhaps the OP would feel better if cops showed up at volatile scenes in a soft top pink Cadillac. Oh heck, to make them less scary, we could have the ERT drive up on tricycles; that ought to calm people down.
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Re: Military policing our streets

Postby SurplusElect » Mar 14th, 2013, 10:38 am

Nebula wrote:This thread is nothing but fear mongering.


#6 on the list I posted


6. Police in North Dakota borrowed a $154 million Predator drone from Homeland Security to arrest a family who refused to return six cows that wandered onto their farm.


Right, "fear mongering".

The only people mongering fear are the police saying they need military equipment.

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Re: Military policing our streets

Postby JLives » Mar 14th, 2013, 10:40 am

Why do the police get a blank card that excuses everything they do? We don't need this vehicle and can't afford it. There is no reason for us to have it.
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Re: Military policing our streets

Postby Graham Adder » Mar 14th, 2013, 10:43 am

Just what we need our local bully-brigade to have.

"Look out Buddy, they beefed up the wagon!"

What a waste of money, time and resources.

Perhaps "they" know something we don't.
Perhaps they have a plan they are setting up to follow through on.
Perhaps Harper recognized how messed up things are about to get with his leadership at the helm.

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Re: Military policing our streets

Postby Dash5 » Mar 14th, 2013, 10:50 am

SurplusElect wrote:Either employ the military to police our streets or keep a CIVILIAN police force to deal with CIVILIANS.

Ask yourself - why is the military currently not policing our streets?


Because it's not within the Canadian Armed Forces mandate to police our streets with the exception of "aid to the Civil Power" operations. Pretty basic really.
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Re: Military policing our streets

Postby LoneWolf_53 » Mar 14th, 2013, 11:03 am

Nebula wrote:This thread is nothing but fear mongering.


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Re: Military policing our streets

Postby SurplusElect » Mar 14th, 2013, 11:04 am

Dash5 wrote:Because it's not within the Canadian Armed Forces mandate to police our streets with the exception of "aid to the Civil Power" operations. Pretty basic really.


Exactly. The military is not equipped, nor should they be, to deal with policing a civilian population.

Why then are we training the police with military tactics and giving them military equipment?

If there is a "crisis", then call in the troops. We don't need a whole list of over-zealous police action "accidents" to outweigh the list of "hypothetical dangerous situations" that the police could find themselves in.
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