Question(s) about moving back to Kelowna
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Question(s) about moving back to Kelowna
Hello. Thanks for taking the time to read this.
I moved to Kelowna last August from Toronto on a whim, in search of a lifestyle change etc. I fell in love with the area instantly, but did run into some problems (mostly lack of stable work after Labour Day), which eventually led to my return back East 6 months later.
I work in the hospitality industry. I'm a cook with my Red Seal, and have over 20 years of experience. I'm 40, with no kids, or family. I've again prepared myself financially with about a years salary in savings, so if I need to tough it out for a while, that's ok. When I was out there before, there were hardly any jobs available after Labour Day. I've been following the classifieds everyday since I've been back and have noticed MANY more jobs begin to get advertised around February and March. Would I stand a better chance or have better luck in securing full time year round work if I arrived after the new year when I see these jobs listed, and are most of them going to end up being seasonal until the summer is over. I am fully aware that I will be taking a pay cut most likely than what I am accustomed to here, and that is ok with me. I really miss it out there and would like to give it another go. Thanks for your time.
I moved to Kelowna last August from Toronto on a whim, in search of a lifestyle change etc. I fell in love with the area instantly, but did run into some problems (mostly lack of stable work after Labour Day), which eventually led to my return back East 6 months later.
I work in the hospitality industry. I'm a cook with my Red Seal, and have over 20 years of experience. I'm 40, with no kids, or family. I've again prepared myself financially with about a years salary in savings, so if I need to tough it out for a while, that's ok. When I was out there before, there were hardly any jobs available after Labour Day. I've been following the classifieds everyday since I've been back and have noticed MANY more jobs begin to get advertised around February and March. Would I stand a better chance or have better luck in securing full time year round work if I arrived after the new year when I see these jobs listed, and are most of them going to end up being seasonal until the summer is over. I am fully aware that I will be taking a pay cut most likely than what I am accustomed to here, and that is ok with me. I really miss it out there and would like to give it another go. Thanks for your time.
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Re: Question(s) about moving back to Kelowna
Experienced and dedicated kitchen staff are sometimes hard to find...one of Kelowna's newest HOT SPOTS is hiring...
The Curious Artistry & Alchemy Café
Good Luck...the kitchen team and Chef Braun are incredible!
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Good Luck...the kitchen team and Chef Braun are incredible!
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Oh this should have a few folks jumping ,,, I've been a food professional for many years, here's my opinion, this is what I have experienced in dining out in Kelowna.
For the most part ( not all ) ,, high prices, small portions, marginal food, indifferent service ,,, and God help you if you don't leave a gratuity !
Now, with the credentials you posses you should have no difficulty finding stable employment in the restaurant industry here in Kelowna. Well qualified chefs can always find employment, I know we are not talking about line cooks but I have a golf pal that works as a line cook in a busy pub.
He does quite well between wages and shared gratuities averaging around $ 3700.00 per month.
For the most part ( not all ) ,, high prices, small portions, marginal food, indifferent service ,,, and God help you if you don't leave a gratuity !
Now, with the credentials you posses you should have no difficulty finding stable employment in the restaurant industry here in Kelowna. Well qualified chefs can always find employment, I know we are not talking about line cooks but I have a golf pal that works as a line cook in a busy pub.
He does quite well between wages and shared gratuities averaging around $ 3700.00 per month.
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i think that you have correctly assessed the situation, restaurants in Kelowna are seasonal and many good restaurants fold during the winter. This is due to the Valley's reliance on seasonal tourist income and a lack of industrial employment for potemtial customers. Not much you can do about that.
But it is a nice place to live and if you still want to move here, like the rest of us, you need to adjust your lifestyle to seasonal work. Housing costs and the cost of living is prohibitively expensive, so not having a family to support is a plus.
Perhaps a plan which assumes that you only work in the summer, and then travel in the winter? Or work in Vancouver in the winter?
Good luck.
But it is a nice place to live and if you still want to move here, like the rest of us, you need to adjust your lifestyle to seasonal work. Housing costs and the cost of living is prohibitively expensive, so not having a family to support is a plus.
Perhaps a plan which assumes that you only work in the summer, and then travel in the winter? Or work in Vancouver in the winter?
Good luck.
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Joe Public wrote:Housing costs and the cost of living is prohibitively expensive, so not having a family to support is a plus.
Not if you rent. There are many "landlords" generously subsidizing their tenants once you factor in house price-to-rent ratio. It may be tricky to find good accommodations, but you just need to be persistent.
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If you are already in Toronto, I'd look hard at East or Southwest Ontario before moving back here. Yes, the scenery & weather are nice, but making a serious living here - particularly in your field - is brutal. Retire here when you've made your money elsewhere; that's what most of us do.
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A new Cactus Club is opening this year at the yacht club and is hiring for all positions. I reckon that would be worth a shot. It's open year round.
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A red seal chef working at a box store style restaurant?
**Disclaimer: The above statement is in my OPINION only.
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A job is a job in this city.
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Why would a red seal cook want to come back to earn a meager $14 bucks an hour? Stay where you are and come for a visit once in a while.
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Thanks for all the input everyone, it is much appreciated. I have much to think about before I make a sound decision. Thankfully, I have time on my side to weigh the pros and cons as I'm here anyways until early 2016. I don't have a problem taking the pay cut to be able to live out there, I'm more worried about securing continous year round full time work, and not something that is just seasonal. Thank you.
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If you want to secure year round employment, I suggest you look into high-end restaurants relying on local patrons instead of mom & pop kitchens which are more tourist based.
Good luck!
Good luck!
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You could always work at a nice winery restaurant in the summer and Big White in the winter. There are a few nice restaurants attached to wineries open year round that do keep a core group in the winter, Quails' Gate, Mission Hill. Once a Sous or CDC position opens up you are set.
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I am Canadian wrote:Why would a red seal cook want to come back to earn a meager $14 bucks an hour? Stay where you are and come for a visit once in a while.
Because they *want* to move here and likely don't have the negative attitude that you espouse and the limitations imposed on what is achievable that you imply.
Why are you here?
Why don't you move away to make a few more bucks if that is the attitude?
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I am Canadian wrote:Why would a red seal cook want to come back to earn a meager $14 bucks an hour? Stay where you are and come for a visit once in a while.
LANDM wrote:Why don't you move away to make a few more bucks if that is the attitude?
LOL. Why don't you move away if that is the attitude? You sound like a cassette we hear too often on this forum. But, but, but... you are the cassette. Next.