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Re: Coyotes

Posted: Jun 6th, 2017, 11:36 pm
by Graham Adder
OFF TOPIC YET AGAIN!!!

Re: Coyotes

Posted: Jun 7th, 2017, 7:42 am
by Ken7
On topic.

Have any of your heard of a mixed coyote. What I heard was there are a coyote/wolf pack in the Glenmore area. The coyotes appear to be much larger then normal but very close in color.

Let me know...

Re: Coyotes

Posted: Jun 7th, 2017, 7:54 am
by whitecandle
The coywolf, a hybrid canine descended from coyotes, wolves, and dogs, has seen its population increase.

http://www.inquisitr.com/2552602/coywol ... astern-us/
http://www.coywolf.org/coywolf-basic-info/
http://www.newsmax.com/TheWire/coywolf- ... id/701234/

Re: Coyotes

Posted: Jun 7th, 2017, 8:21 am
by lightspeed
Ken7 wrote:On topic.

Have any of your heard of a mixed coyote. What I heard was there are a coyote/wolf pack in the Glenmore area. The coyotes appear to be much larger then normal but very close in color.

Let me know...


Yup been up close and personal. 10-12' away, twice. Much bigger, more fur. VERY aggressive and won't back down easy if they're riled or excited.

Re: Coyotes

Posted: Jun 7th, 2017, 8:33 am
by mexi cali
The ones I see today are much larger than the ones I grew up with in ALta. They were very small by comparison and you almost never saw them during daylight hours.

These guys on the other hand, as I said are much larger and they don't spook but neither are they aggressive toward people. Not so far at least.

Re: Coyotes

Posted: Jun 9th, 2017, 4:51 pm
by phasyluck
gman313 wrote:everyone has to eat - fluffy tastes good


That was my first cats name :( but he died at 17 from diabetes......the smart ones don't get taken!!

Re: Coyotes

Posted: Jun 9th, 2017, 4:53 pm
by phasyluck
mexi cali wrote:The ones I see today are much larger than the ones I grew up with in ALta. They were very small by comparison and you almost never saw them during daylight hours.

These guys on the other hand, as I said are much larger and they don't spook but neither are they aggressive toward people. Not so far at least.

Lived on Sexsmith Rd for 6.5 years, some odd looking, healthy and very large in comparison to the normal seen around Mail Rd many times in the fields.

Re: Coyotes

Posted: Jun 9th, 2017, 5:02 pm
by 60-YEARS-in-Ktown
My brother lived on Mail. They were in the orchards there.
I see them a few times crossing Long Hill part way up..
The one I saw Deek and Hide was trying to get across Valley by the church /daycare..

Re: Coyotes

Posted: Jun 9th, 2017, 5:09 pm
by phasyluck
60-YEARS-in-Ktown wrote:My brother lived on Mail. They were in the orchards there.
I see them a few times crossing Long Hill part way up..
The one I saw Deek and Hide was trying to get across Valley by the church /daycare..


There was a healthy rabbit population in that exact area of the church....2006-2010 Id say and then not as noticeable until I moved.

Re: Coyotes

Posted: Jun 9th, 2017, 6:09 pm
by Graham Adder
phasyluck wrote:
There was a healthy rabbit population in that exact area of the church....2006-2010 Id say and then not as noticeable until I moved.



That wasn't the coyotes that affected the bunnies.
That was another one of our well spent tax projects to save every bunny life for adoption.
Many hungry mouths on the streets of this city, but we spend our funds saving the food source from being eaten by hungry people.
I only wish the coyotes were the reason for the decline in bunnies in this city, but unfortunately no. It was the save-the-bunnies brigade.

Worthy of note:
I am in no way implying anything about domestic "pet" rabbits.
The rabbits infesting our city and lake country a few years ago were feral. Not pets.
Delicious, nutritious and low in cholesterol.
Missed opportunity IMO.

Re: Coyotes

Posted: Jun 10th, 2017, 12:59 am
by Graphite
Actually tax money was used to cull the bunnies. Organizations like TRACS were simply allowed to catch and save the bunnies. The city of Kelowna contracted a pest control company who used air rifles and thier boots to kill the rest.

Re: Coyotes

Posted: Jun 10th, 2017, 1:01 am
by Graphite
The city council voted to kill the rabbits, not save them.

Re: Coyotes

Posted: Jun 10th, 2017, 7:54 am
by Barney Google
Graphite wrote:Actually tax money was used to cull the bunnies. Organizations like TRACS were simply allowed to catch and save the bunnies. The city of Kelowna contracted a pest control company who used air rifles and thier boots to kill the rest.


A long while back I heard a story about how some of those bunnies ended up being relocated to

a rescue residence up here in Joe Rich.

Back then I thought, "well that's one way to bring dinner closer to its timely demise"

Re: Coyotes

Posted: Jun 10th, 2017, 1:29 pm
by trapp
Those seeing what you think are coyote wolf cross are most likely just large coyotes. Hybrid wolf coyote cross in the west are extremely rare to almost non existent. The wolf coyote cross are primarily in Eastern Canada and the Eastern States. I personally have handled thousands of BC coyote pelts as well as hundreds of wolves working in the fur industry and never seen a hybrid yet.

For those urban wildlife specialists worried about the demise of the city coyote, worry no more. The wiley coyote is so cunning and adaptable to urban city live we could not exterminate them using any present methods allowable within urban areas. Even with permitted shooting in the city there are very few areas where this would be safe or allowed. Live trapping, forget it, if you set live traps all over the city year around you may catch one or two if you are very fortunate. Foot hold trapping or locking snares are the most successful methods. As a professional trapper these options are off the table in a city environment where people can not or will not control their dogs. As well few trappers would be that successful as to take even 60 % of the urban coyotes if allowed to use the above methods in the city.

Coyotes are here in the City of Kelowna and here to stay, like it or not. Best advice already given by others, keep your cats from roaming and your dogs in your yard or on leash for best results. Even then there may be some coyote predation.

One other fact, probably more cats are taken by raptors than coyotes. The great Horned Owl is superior at feral cat and skunk control.

Re: Coyotes

Posted: Jun 10th, 2017, 3:11 pm
by Graham Adder
Great info Trapp.
I too thought I'd seen a hybrid "coy-dog" just a few years ago.
It was crossing the road at Vernon Creek on Beaver Lake Road.
I was heading downhill toward the creek crossing, when this HUGE coyote ran up onto the road in front of me, just long enough to get across the creek, then down the drainoff on the other side.
In the quick moment I got to see it, it looked to be at least the size of a large Shepherd.
It was by far the most beautiful coyote I've seen to date.
Until now (after reading your post) I've always thought it was a coy-dog.
Now...maybe not. Perhaps it was just one big mutha'yote.