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This can't be Good for a new development

This can't be Good for a new development

Postby GordonH » Oct 26th, 2017, 1:15 pm

https://www.castanet.net/news/Kelowna/2 ... nley-Beach

Potential buyers maybe hesitant after seeing this.

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Re: This can't be Good for a new development

Postby featfan » Oct 26th, 2017, 1:36 pm

Have you seen some of the houses there?
Built out and cantilevered on fill.
The posts for the decks and part of the house and not joined to the footings or foundations at ground level.
Just a tube filled with concrete and hey we are good to go.
Geez we might as well put up a pool on a bunch of posts too.

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Re: This can't be Good for a new development

Postby the truth » Oct 26th, 2017, 2:13 pm

yup. fly by night contractors
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Re: This can't be Good for a new development

Postby alanjh595 » Oct 26th, 2017, 2:24 pm

the truth wrote:yup. fly by night contractors


What area of expertise would be responsible for causing/forecasting a sink-hole?
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Re: This can't be Good for a new development

Postby lightspeed » Oct 26th, 2017, 2:49 pm

alanjh595 wrote:
the truth wrote:yup. fly by night contractors


What area of expertise would be responsible for causing/forecasting a sink-hole?



Geotech.
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Re: This can't be Good for a new development

Postby alanjh595 » Oct 26th, 2017, 2:52 pm

alanjh595 wrote:
the truth wrote:yup. fly by night contractors


What area of expertise would be responsible for causing/forecasting a sink-hole?



lightspeed wrote:Geotech.


Well then, I wouldn't call Geotech a "Fly-by nighter" contractor.
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Re: This can't be Good for a new development

Postby dirtguy » Oct 26th, 2017, 3:11 pm

You have a lot of unknowns when you are dealing with heavy earth, these things can happen.
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Re: This can't be Good for a new development

Postby muddydogs » Oct 26th, 2017, 3:21 pm

Maybe if the developers stopped trying to completely alter the landscape by blasting the **** out of mountainsides these things wouldn't happen. Instead of trying to work with the land they have and contour the homes to fit the landscape, they blast millions of cubic metres of rock and are shocked when this happens.
Cut and fill = ugly development
Is there such a thing as a responsible, ethical developer in the Okanagan?

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Re: This can't be Good for a new development

Postby alanjh595 » Oct 26th, 2017, 3:55 pm

muddydogs wrote:Maybe if the developers stopped trying to completely alter the landscape by blasting the **** out of mountainsides these things wouldn't happen. Instead of trying to work with the land they have and contour the homes to fit the landscape, they blast millions of cubic metres of rock and are shocked when this happens.
Cut and fill = ugly development
Is there such a thing as a responsible, ethical developer in the Okanagan?


How can you be sure that wasn't happening in this development? Do you have any evidence that there was any blasting at all in this location?
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Re: This can't be Good for a new development

Postby WalterWhite » Oct 26th, 2017, 8:40 pm

That's not a "sinkhole", and glacial till doesn't just "slough". In this area it's hard as hell and the next best thing to bedrock. It's practically impermeable to groundwater unless disturbed.
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Re: This can't be Good for a new development

Postby Scrobins94 » Oct 27th, 2017, 2:24 am

featfan wrote:Have you seen some of the houses there?
Built out and cantilevered on fill.
The posts for the decks and part of the house and not joined to the footings or foundations at ground level.
Just a tube filled with concrete and hey we are good to go.
Geez we might as well put up a pool on a bunch of posts too.


I had to look it up. I am no engineer but when I looked it up I came across a few pics which made me think hell naw. A few examples... :132:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BZ7ly67noqY/
https://www.instagram.com/p/BTWxVrFjDtQ/

Beautiful homes though...

Why don't developers try to stay more within the natural way the land was?

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Re: This can't be Good for a new development

Postby lightspeed » Oct 27th, 2017, 4:57 am

Scrobins94 wrote:
I had to look it up. I am no engineer but when I looked it up I came across a few pics which made me think hell naw. A few examples... :132:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BZ7ly67noqY/
https://www.instagram.com/p/BTWxVrFjDtQ/


OMG....just no.
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Re: This can't be Good for a new development

Postby Queen K » Oct 27th, 2017, 5:23 am

I too am horrified. Sickened by what I'm seeing there really.

How does that sort of construction get passed? :135:
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Re: This can't be Good for a new development

Postby gambit2 » Oct 27th, 2017, 5:47 am

You people understand that these stilted houses are not just put up by "fly by night" contractors right? All of that stilting is ENGINEERED and the homes are built by reputable home builders...

I bet you you guys won't drive over a bridge because you can't understand how it just stays up in the air like that!! Just because it looks sketchy to your untrained eye doesn't mean it isn't structurally sound.

I don't know why I read these Castanet forums.

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Re: This can't be Good for a new development

Postby techrtr » Oct 27th, 2017, 5:54 am

When I first saw that development going in I couldn't believe it was ever approved. Sad to see the Okanagan being geo-formed so they can cram more and more developments in.
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