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This can't be Good for a new development

Posted: Oct 26th, 2017, 2:15 pm
by GordonH
https://www.castanet.net/news/Kelowna/2 ... nley-Beach

Potential buyers maybe hesitant after seeing this.

Re: This can't be Good for a new development

Posted: Oct 26th, 2017, 2:36 pm
by featfan
Have you seen some of the houses there?
Built out and cantilevered on fill.
The posts for the decks and part of the house and not joined to the footings or foundations at ground level.
Just a tube filled with concrete and hey we are good to go.
Geez we might as well put up a pool on a bunch of posts too.

Re: This can't be Good for a new development

Posted: Oct 26th, 2017, 3:13 pm
by the truth
yup. fly by night contractors

Re: This can't be Good for a new development

Posted: Oct 26th, 2017, 3:24 pm
by alanjh595
the truth wrote:yup. fly by night contractors


What area of expertise would be responsible for causing/forecasting a sink-hole?

Re: This can't be Good for a new development

Posted: Oct 26th, 2017, 3:49 pm
by lightspeed
alanjh595 wrote:
the truth wrote:yup. fly by night contractors


What area of expertise would be responsible for causing/forecasting a sink-hole?



Geotech.

Re: This can't be Good for a new development

Posted: Oct 26th, 2017, 3:52 pm
by alanjh595
alanjh595 wrote:
the truth wrote:yup. fly by night contractors


What area of expertise would be responsible for causing/forecasting a sink-hole?



lightspeed wrote:Geotech.


Well then, I wouldn't call Geotech a "Fly-by nighter" contractor.

Re: This can't be Good for a new development

Posted: Oct 26th, 2017, 4:11 pm
by dirtguy
You have a lot of unknowns when you are dealing with heavy earth, these things can happen.

Re: This can't be Good for a new development

Posted: Oct 26th, 2017, 4:21 pm
by muddydogs
Maybe if the developers stopped trying to completely alter the landscape by blasting the **** out of mountainsides these things wouldn't happen. Instead of trying to work with the land they have and contour the homes to fit the landscape, they blast millions of cubic metres of rock and are shocked when this happens.
Cut and fill = ugly development
Is there such a thing as a responsible, ethical developer in the Okanagan?

Re: This can't be Good for a new development

Posted: Oct 26th, 2017, 4:55 pm
by alanjh595
muddydogs wrote:Maybe if the developers stopped trying to completely alter the landscape by blasting the **** out of mountainsides these things wouldn't happen. Instead of trying to work with the land they have and contour the homes to fit the landscape, they blast millions of cubic metres of rock and are shocked when this happens.
Cut and fill = ugly development
Is there such a thing as a responsible, ethical developer in the Okanagan?


How can you be sure that wasn't happening in this development? Do you have any evidence that there was any blasting at all in this location?

Re: This can't be Good for a new development

Posted: Oct 26th, 2017, 9:40 pm
by WalterWhite
That's not a "sinkhole", and glacial till doesn't just "slough". In this area it's hard as hell and the next best thing to bedrock. It's practically impermeable to groundwater unless disturbed.

Re: This can't be Good for a new development

Posted: Oct 27th, 2017, 3:24 am
by Scrobins94
featfan wrote:Have you seen some of the houses there?
Built out and cantilevered on fill.
The posts for the decks and part of the house and not joined to the footings or foundations at ground level.
Just a tube filled with concrete and hey we are good to go.
Geez we might as well put up a pool on a bunch of posts too.


I had to look it up. I am no engineer but when I looked it up I came across a few pics which made me think hell naw. A few examples... :132:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BZ7ly67noqY/
https://www.instagram.com/p/BTWxVrFjDtQ/

Beautiful homes though...

Why don't developers try to stay more within the natural way the land was?

Re: This can't be Good for a new development

Posted: Oct 27th, 2017, 5:57 am
by lightspeed
Scrobins94 wrote:
I had to look it up. I am no engineer but when I looked it up I came across a few pics which made me think hell naw. A few examples... :132:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BZ7ly67noqY/
https://www.instagram.com/p/BTWxVrFjDtQ/


OMG....just no.

Re: This can't be Good for a new development

Posted: Oct 27th, 2017, 6:23 am
by Queen K
I too am horrified. Sickened by what I'm seeing there really.

How does that sort of construction get passed? :135:

Re: This can't be Good for a new development

Posted: Oct 27th, 2017, 6:47 am
by gambit2
You people understand that these stilted houses are not just put up by "fly by night" contractors right? All of that stilting is ENGINEERED and the homes are built by reputable home builders...

I bet you you guys won't drive over a bridge because you can't understand how it just stays up in the air like that!! Just because it looks sketchy to your untrained eye doesn't mean it isn't structurally sound.

I don't know why I read these Castanet forums.

Re: This can't be Good for a new development

Posted: Oct 27th, 2017, 6:54 am
by techrtr
When I first saw that development going in I couldn't believe it was ever approved. Sad to see the Okanagan being geo-formed so they can cram more and more developments in.