Will Kelowna need a second downtown?

Re: Will Kelowna need a second downtown?

Postby Omnitheo » Jan 7th, 2018, 4:19 am

What was Rutland’s “downtown” before it was annexed by kelowna? Highway 33 and Rutland rd? No reason they can’t develop that area further. I remember a council meeting several ears back about increasing building heights in Rutland. I just don’t think for developers it’s as enticing of an area to develop as somewhere with a lake view.
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Re: Will Kelowna need a second downtown?

Postby dirtybiker » Jan 7th, 2018, 11:41 am

Omnitheo wrote:What was Rutland’s “downtown” before it was annexed by kelowna? Highway 33 and Rutland rd? No reason they can’t develop that area further. I remember a council meeting several ears back about increasing building heights in Rutland. I just don’t think for developers it’s as enticing of an area to develop as somewhere with a lake view.


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Re: Will Kelowna need a second downtown?

Postby Urban Cowboy » Jan 7th, 2018, 12:43 pm

Omnitheo wrote:What was Rutland’s “downtown” before it was annexed by kelowna? Highway 33 and Rutland rd? No reason they can’t develop that area further. I remember a council meeting several ears back about increasing building heights in Rutland. I just don’t think for developers it’s as enticing of an area to develop as somewhere with a lake view.


It's not as enticing given that a couple of the corner lots at Hwy33/Rutland Road stood empty for over a decade before finally being developed.

Then you have places such as Plaza 33 aka the Geritol Mall which always had a significant number of empty units. Haven't been in there for a long time though so that may have improved.
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Re: Will Kelowna need a second downtown?

Postby Bpeep » Jan 7th, 2018, 12:50 pm

Old Techie wrote:
Omnitheo wrote:What was Rutland’s “downtown” before it was annexed by kelowna? Highway 33 and Rutland rd? No reason they can’t develop that area further. I remember a council meeting several ears back about increasing building heights in Rutland. I just don’t think for developers it’s as enticing of an area to develop as somewhere with a lake view.


It's not as enticing given that a couple of the corner lots at Hwy33/Rutland Road stood empty for over a decade before finally being developed.

Then you have places such as Plaza 33 aka the Geritol Mall which always had a significant number of empty units. Haven't been in there for a long time though so that may have improved.


If anything it gets worse and worse.
The owner (A.S.) is happy with the leases he has tied up in there and the mall got hacked up because of it. It's caused its allure as a shopping mall to vanish.
There's been a few tenants whose businesses have failed because of it.
Imo if it wasn't for the grocery and the drug store it would be a slum mall. It's borderline there now.
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Re: Will Kelowna need a second downtown?

Postby Urban Cowboy » Jan 7th, 2018, 12:57 pm

Omnitheo wrote:What was Rutland’s “downtown” before it was annexed by kelowna? Highway 33 and Rutland rd? No reason they can’t develop that area further. I remember a council meeting several ears back about increasing building heights in Rutland. I just don’t think for developers it’s as enticing of an area to develop as somewhere with a lake view.


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It's not as enticing given that a couple of the corner lots at Hwy33/Rutland Road stood empty for over a decade before finally being developed.

Then you have places such as Plaza 33 aka the Geritol Mall which always had a significant number of empty units. Haven't been in there for a long time though so that may have improved.


If anything it gets worse and worse.
The owner (A.S.) is happy with the leases he has tied up in there and the mall got hacked up because of it. It's caused its allure as a shopping mall to vanish.
There's been a few tenants whose businesses have failed because of it.
Imo if it wasn't for the grocery and the drug store it would be a slum mall. It's borderline there now.


Can't say I'm surprised I figured as much.

If it weren't for Shoppers, Save On, and the lottery kiosk, there wouldn't be anyone in there but a couple of old farts warming the benches.

That place has just never screamed "thriving" to me, even as far back as twenty years.
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Re: Will Kelowna need a second downtown?

Postby Bpeep » Jan 7th, 2018, 2:22 pm

Dianne closed the lottery kiosk.
She was a victim of the mall aisle being closed off.
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Re: Will Kelowna need a second downtown?

Postby Urban Cowboy » Jan 7th, 2018, 3:01 pm

Bman wrote:Dianne closed the lottery kiosk.
She was a victim of the mall aisle being closed off.


Wow, with that gone there's little reason for the old farts to be warming the benches, so the place seems to have gone even further downhill than I'd imagined.

Guess it has been a while since I've been in there. :D
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Re: Will Kelowna need a second downtown?

Postby Grandan » Jan 7th, 2018, 3:33 pm

Bman wrote:Dianne closed the lottery kiosk.
She was a victim of the mall aisle being closed off.


Old Techie wrote:Wow, with that gone there's little reason for the old farts to be warming the benches, so the place seems to have gone even further downhill than I'd imagined.

Guess it has been a while since I've been in there. :D


Meanwhile the expanded mall in Glenmore on Kane is doing a booming business.
Who wants to drive over the hill to OPM and fight traffic and parking when you have a tidy mall on our doorstep.
It is too bad COK did nor allocate nearly enough commercial space Glenmore for more of the merchants we would love to see in the area.
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Re: Will Kelowna need a second downtown?

Postby stevemic » Jan 7th, 2018, 4:10 pm

Bman wrote:Dianne closed the lottery kiosk.
She was a victim of the mall aisle being closed off.


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Re: Will Kelowna need a second downtown?

Postby GordonH » Jan 7th, 2018, 5:11 pm

Maybe the second downtown would actually have something worth going to shop at, since first one doesn't. :laugh:
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Re: Will Kelowna need a second downtown?

Postby LTD » Jan 7th, 2018, 5:44 pm

the one and only thing good about downtown is mad mango went there today
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Re: Will Kelowna need a second downtown?

Postby Omnitheo » Jan 7th, 2018, 9:28 pm

Glenmore is running out of room for more services. There’s the new developments at Dilworth, but most of the empty real estate is going to housing. There are still a few lots beyond valley, but I’m not sure if these are ALR or not. There is also one large lot near Drysdale and sutton actually, but it appears to be zoned residential currently.

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Re: Will Kelowna need a second downtown?

Postby 7600736 » Jan 7th, 2018, 10:33 pm

Then you have places such as Plaza 33 aka the Geritol Mall which always had a significant number of empty units. Haven't been in there for a long time though so that may have improved.[/quote]

If anything it gets worse and worse.
The owner (A.S.) is happy with the leases he has tied up in there and the mall got hacked up because of it. It's caused its allure as a shopping mall to vanish.
There's been a few tenants whose businesses have failed because of it.
Imo if it wasn't for the grocery and the drug store it would be a slum mall. It's borderline there now.[/quote]


Does anyone remember the toy store that was in the basement, back when it was Shoppers Village? Or Stedman's over by the drug store?
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