Public bathrooms

[rattleyou123]

Pretty amazing to spend that much on public restrooms when we can't even get our streets and sidewalks cleared!!!! Maybe the city should put another roundabout at that corner too!!! GO FIGURE KELOWNA!!

[Rider59]

Seems very high. My 4000 sq ft house was only $500,000 to build including a lot of extra excavation for sewer driveway etc.
Do contractors tend to gouge cities more than general population?

Your house is built with match sticks and cardboard. How much would it cost to build a vandal proof concrete block home?

[Snarf]

I am all for a new modern toilet/change area. I also wish there was a consistent snack-bar, unlike the apple which is almost always closed! And to all the people who think 675K is too much, try and build one after removal of the old one for less. Not easy.
Costs have gone up... A LOT

[Urban Cowboy]

Seems very high. My 4000 sq ft house was only $500,000 to build including a lot of extra excavation for sewer driveway etc.
Do contractors tend to gouge cities more than general population?

Your house is built with match sticks and cardboard. How much would it cost to build a vandal proof concrete block home?

I'd consider it far more valid of a point, were it not for all the commercial buildings I keep seeing erected, made up of prefabricated concrete sections that are bolted together onsite in fairly short order.

I'd view those as vandal proof, and well worth considering for public use, especially when factoring in the many public parks in Kelowna that could use such a structure, and cost of which should come down, one would think, if they are mass produced.

They'd also be even stronger than concrete block, which is hollow and not that hard to smash with a hammer.

If they felt the look to be too bland it would be simple enough to address by planting something around it, or painting a mural onto it.

Such logic we'll likely never see CoK embrace as they prefer champagne taste.

[Queen K]

I'd consider it far more valid of a point, were it not for all the commercial buildings I keep seeing erected, made up of prefabricated concrete sections that are bolted together onsite in fairly short order.

I'd view those as vandal proof, and well worth considering for public use, especially when factoring in the many public parks in Kelowna that could use such a structure, and cost of which should come down, one would think, if they are mass produced.

They'd also be even stronger than concrete block, which is hollow and not that hard to smash with a hammer.

If they felt the look to be too bland it would be simple enough to address by planting something around it, or painting a mural onto it.

Such logic we'll likely never see CoK embrace as they prefer champagne taste.

Good God OT, are you in some way acknowledging that I'm right? We're in agreement?

[dirtybiker]

acknowledging that I'm right?

Now that is just crazy talk !..

Pre-fab tilt-up concrete bunkers ..Yes.

I'd surmise that more than a couple could be put together and outfitted for that price so that more
than just one beach/park saw benefits.

[Jlabute]

Relative to 1969 when the washrooms cost $350,000, perhaps $675,000 is a deal with the rise in costs over the last 49 years. Still feels high to me though. $350,000 in 1969 is like 50 jigabux today.

[voice of reason]

Relative to 1969 when the washrooms cost $350,000, perhaps $675,000 is a deal with the rise in costs over the last 49 years. Still feels high to me though. $350,000 in 1969 is like 50 jigabux today.

the y never spent 350k in 1969. read it again

[Rider59]

I wish people would limit their comments to subjects they know something about.

I'd consider it far more valid of a point, were it not for all the commercial buildings I keep seeing erected, made up of prefabricated concrete sections that are bolted together onsite in fairly short order. You do realize that there is engineering and labour off site to have these panels built and shipping right?

I'd view those as vandal proof, and well worth considering for public use, especially when factoring in the many public parks in Kelowna that could use such a structure, and cost of which should come down, one would think, if they are mass produced. LOL. The vandal proofing is generally not the building shell. It's the fixtures, lighting, doors/locks, windows, etc. The amount that CoK would require is not massed produced. LOL

They'd also be even stronger than concrete block, which is hollow and not that hard to smash with a hammer. Uhmmm, they fill those blocks with concrete and rebar after the electrical conduits are installed.

If they felt the look to be too bland it would be simple enough to address by planting something around it, or painting a mural onto it.

Such logic we'll likely never see CoK embrace as they prefer champagne taste. Ya, lets just pay to replace it in 25 years instead of 50 to 75 years

[Rider59]

Good God OT, are you in some way acknowledging that I'm right? We're in agreement?

You may be in agreement but you're far from right, just because you usually think you are.

[Scrobins94]

Very nice. I am glad the CoK is investing to make our city more beautiful. If you are less progressive, but still love the Okanagan, there is always Vernon or Lavington. It feels like walking into the 70s.

Although I do find this an interesting coincidence with the developments going on nearby... Hmmm...

[alanjh595]

Has anyone addressed the "OPEN" hours and/or the months that these facilities will be made available?

[Urban Cowboy]

I wish people would limit their comments to subjects they know something about.

I'd consider it far more valid of a point, were it not for all the commercial buildings I keep seeing erected, made up of prefabricated concrete sections that are bolted together onsite in fairly short order. You do realize that there is engineering and labour off site to have these panels built and shipping right?
Yes I do. Do you realize there's a company locally equipped to do such stuff?
I'm pretty sure if a suitable structure was designed they could make appropriate moulds. The thing about a mould is that it costs a lot to make it, so the first washroom would naturally be higher priced, but from then on those moulds just get used again without any additional setup costs. There most certainly are advantages to using a standard design repeatedly, as opposed to a one of design.

I'd view those as vandal proof, and well worth considering for public use, especially when factoring in the many public parks in Kelowna that could use such a structure, and cost of which should come down, one would think, if they are mass produced. LOL. The vandal proofing is generally not the building shell. It's the fixtures, lighting, doors/locks, windows, etc. The amount that CoK would require is not massed produced. LOL
You seem to be grasping now, because in the big picture if they installed say twenty or so in the various parks that require it, the cost should still be less than just one fancy outhouse in the Mission. As far as the fixtures goes it would be the same situation regardless of what the building envelope is. I hope you aren't suggesting the fixtures and doors cost around half a million.

They'd also be even stronger than concrete block, which is hollow and not that hard to smash with a hammer. Uhmmm, they fill those blocks with concrete and rebar after the electrical conduits are installed.
Maybe they do now, but I've seen some with holes in the blocks so must not have always been the case.

If they felt the look to be too bland it would be simple enough to address by planting something around it, or painting a mural onto it.

Such logic we'll likely never see CoK embrace as they prefer champagne taste. Ya, lets just pay to replace it in 25 years instead of 50 to 75 years
Not sure what exactly you mean by that remark, given that the lifespan of solid concrete wall structures, would easily match or surpass that of concrete blocks, and sure as heck save a lot of the labor cost involved in laying blocks.

I wish some people would refrain from being unduly condescending, so I guess we all have a wish list.

[PocoGirl]

Has anyone addressed the "OPEN" hours and/or the months that these facilities will be made available?

It says in the link by the original poster, that it’s anticipated to be open year round. No clue about the hours.

https://www.castanet.net/edition/news-s ... htm#215498

[Rider59]

Bla bla bla

I wish some people would refrain from being unduly condescending, so I guess we all have a wish list.

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Well it's pretty obvious who has and who has not spent any time in the construction industry. BTW, I have 25 yrs in the building trades and 20 yrs in civil engineering so I don't think it's me.

Bye