WFN tax

Re: WFN tax

Postby phasyluck » Jan 8th, 2018, 8:58 pm

How was the pricing of food and drink in comparison to your average non native establishment?
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Re: WFN tax

Postby Brass Monkey » Jan 8th, 2018, 9:18 pm

voice of reason wrote:so the indians can make up their own tax now?


What’s the difference between the federal government writing tax laws on their land the Indian band writing tax laws on theirs?

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Re: WFN tax

Postby oneh2obabe » Jan 8th, 2018, 9:30 pm

phasyluck wrote:How was the pricing of food and drink in comparison to your average non native establishment?

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Re: WFN tax

Postby voice of reason » Jan 8th, 2018, 9:49 pm

Brass Monkey wrote:
What’s the difference between the federal government writing tax laws on their land the Indian band writing tax laws on theirs?

the crown already owns the indian reserve

The Indian Act is clear that status Indians do not own property on reserves. The Minister of Aboriginal Affairs and Northern Development Canada may issue a "Certificate of Possession" to a status Indian for a portion of reserve land, but underlying title to the land remains vested with the Crown. Thus, Indian reserve land cannot be sold except to the Crown and does not appreciate in value the same way that property held in fee simple does for other Canadians. This makes it very difficult for a status Indian to borrow funds to build a house on reserve.
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Re: WFN tax

Postby Veovis » Jan 8th, 2018, 10:31 pm

Brass Monkey wrote:What’s the difference between the federal government writing tax laws on their land the Indian band writing tax laws on theirs?


The Federal Government governs all of Canada yet provinces have their own sales taxes as do municipalities. I see no reason a band cannot have a similar application of those concepts.

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Re: WFN tax

Postby Ken7 » Jan 9th, 2018, 8:19 am

coffeeFreak wrote:It's basically the equivalent of provincial tax, something those of us who live off-reserve benefit from. And they have an infrastructure that needs to be supported too, so good on them!


I'm curious what you meant by this comment, can you explain how we off reserve would benefit from the WFT or is that member of the WBFN benefit from.

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Re: WFN tax

Postby Fancy » Jan 9th, 2018, 8:21 am

I think what she meant was off reserve people benefit from provincial tax. On reserve have an equivalent tax to benefit their residents.
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Re: WFN tax

Postby LANDM » Jan 9th, 2018, 8:35 am

They are self governing so of course they have taxation. News flash: they also charge a property tax equivalent!
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Re: WFN tax

Postby Rider59 » Jan 9th, 2018, 8:54 am

LANDM wrote:They are self governing so of course they have taxation. News flash: they also charge a property tax equivalent!


Do those taxes collected in anyway reduce the Federal funding to the band and put them on a path of more self reliance?
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Re: WFN tax

Postby whitecandle » Jan 9th, 2018, 11:21 am

Westbank First Nation's own source revenue capacity shall be taken into account in the determination of funding set out in the financial transfer agreement for programs and services which Westbank First Nation provides pursuant to jurisdictions set out in the Agreement.

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Re: WFN tax

Postby coffeeFreak » Jan 9th, 2018, 4:30 pm

Ken7 wrote:
coffeeFreak wrote:It's basically the equivalent of provincial tax, something those of us who live off-reserve benefit from. And they have an infrastructure that needs to be supported too, so good on them!


I'm curious what you meant by this comment, can you explain how we off reserve would benefit from the WFT or is that member of the WBFN benefit from.

Thanks.


Fancy is correct in saying I was meaning a benefit for on-reserve people, but I think everyone who lives/leases/shops on the reserve would likely benefit, just as we do via provincial and municipal taxes. Eg paving, snow removal, lights...

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Re: WFN tax

Postby Zoso » Jan 13th, 2018, 7:37 pm

I never even noticed the tax when i was there . Food was exceptional as was the wine , bill was about 70 bucks, pretty cheap date night . Considering when you order in chinese delivery is 75 bucks which seems to me was always 35 .
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Re: WFN tax

Postby MAPearce » Jan 13th, 2018, 9:55 pm

Fancy wrote:I think what she meant was off reserve people benefit from provincial tax. On reserve have an equivalent tax to benefit their residents.


Don't aboriginals benefit from a tax free status ???
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Re: WFN tax

Postby coffeeFreak » Jan 13th, 2018, 10:30 pm

MAPearce wrote:
Don't aboriginals benefit from a tax free status ???


If you have "status" and work on-reserve or purchase items on-reserve then you benefit by not paying taxes. However the taxes you are referring to have nothing to do with the WFN taxes being discussed here.

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Re: WFN tax

Postby Jhunter199 » Jan 18th, 2018, 6:53 pm

Rider59 wrote:
LANDM wrote:They are self governing so of course they have taxation. News flash: they also charge a property tax equivalent!


Do those taxes collected in anyway reduce the Federal funding to the band and put them on a path of more self reliance?


I think the Westbank FN do pretty well for themselves and the numerous corp. and business's they own and operate. Personally i'm impressed with how they've grown in the last 10-15 years. Other area's could learn from their business model/plan.

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