$100M town centre plan

$100M town centre plan

Postby Grandan » Jan 14th, 2018, 8:50 am

I just looked at the plan and see that Sutherland is slated to be pushed through to Spall.
https://www.castanet.net/edition/news-s ... htm#216166
It seems a bit much to me.
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Re: $100M town centre plan

Postby dirtybiker » Jan 14th, 2018, 12:34 pm

That is quite the vision.

Looks like the idealists got a new box of crayons.

I was trying to say something positive..That is the best
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Re: $100M town centre plan

Postby GordonH » Jan 14th, 2018, 1:00 pm

Quick look at the map, tells me homeowners in the Pacific court extension. May not be happy to having to move, unless the CoK pays big bucks.
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Re: $100M town centre plan

Postby dirtybiker » Jan 14th, 2018, 1:06 pm

Or Sutherland going through the middle of all those small businesses and what ??
Tack shop to Princess Auto driveway ??? To ???
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Re: $100M town centre plan

Postby just popping in » Jan 14th, 2018, 1:19 pm

dirtybiker wrote:That is quite the vision.

Looks like the idealists got a new box of crayons.

I was trying to say something positive..That is the best
I could do.


:laugh: [icon_lol2.gif] :up:
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Re: $100M town centre plan

Postby Grandan » Jan 14th, 2018, 1:48 pm

dirtybiker wrote:Or Sutherland going through the middle of all those small businesses and what ??
Tack shop to Princess Auto driveway ??? To ???

It may be that some land owners in the Kirschner Rd area are making redevelopment noises. So, in exchange for high rises, they get to build a whole new road system.
The existing road system between Kirschner and Spall is pathetic. You have a choice of deaking through by Princess Auto or taking the lane behind Andres Electronics, neither of which is a proper road. In that respect I can appreciate the rationale for Sutherland extension. Many of the businesses in that area are concrete block warehouses with very limited ability to expand due to lack of proper road access. I always thought it was crazy to build the way it was done with just private driveways but it was just another weird thing that Kelowna did.
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Re: $100M town centre plan

Postby Wave101 » Jan 14th, 2018, 2:23 pm

Grandan wrote:I just looked at the plan and see that Sutherland is slated to be pushed through to Spall.
https://www.castanet.net/edition/news-s ... htm#216166
It seems a bit much to me.


Your right. Instead of extending Sutherland they should direct all the new traffic caused by the development on to Harvey Ave. Everyone knows there is plenty of room on Harvey Ave for thousands of more cars so why not?

They should totally hire you for any future city designs because you obviously know better.

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Re: $100M town centre plan

Postby Urban Cowboy » Jan 14th, 2018, 10:37 pm

dirtybiker wrote:Or Sutherland going through the middle of all those small businesses and what ??
Tack shop to Princess Auto driveway ??? To ???


That's what's puzzling me, what exactly the point is to bringing Sutherland to that location?

Maybe another light planned spitting distance from the one at Spall and Springfield. :biggrin:

It's not as if that area doesn't already have enough challenges, dealing with the putzes coming out of Princess Auto being a big one.
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Re: $100M town centre plan

Postby Urban Cowboy » Jan 15th, 2018, 12:25 am

Grandan wrote:I just looked at the plan and see that Sutherland is slated to be pushed through to Spall.
https://www.castanet.net/edition/news-s ... htm#216166
It seems a bit much to me.


Wave101 wrote:Your right. Instead of extending Sutherland they should direct all the new traffic caused by the development on to Harvey Ave. Everyone knows there is plenty of room on Harvey Ave for thousands of more cars so why not?


They're more than likely going to end up on Harvey anyway so why screw up another road?

It's hard to see the benefit of spending money moving roads around when the existing ones work just fine.
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Re: $100M town centre plan

Postby dirtybiker » Jan 15th, 2018, 12:56 am

Old Techie wrote: so why screw up another road?

It's hard to see the benefit of spending money moving roads around when the existing ones work just fine.


You kinda answered your own question.
Screwing with what works and putting things in place that likely won't,
seem to be the way it is done around here.

Maybe I'm just not a visionary, I just don't see a point in building a road to nowhere
when the ones that do (go somewhere) could use some attention.

How about an over-pass at Spall ?
Another at Airport Way ?

Get rid of that ridiculous light at University Way ?

But, I'm no visionary. Just a citizen that can see a City that is badly constipated.

There are densification projects coming out our ying-yang that speculators envision
being plumb full of warm bodies.
Yet no way for the Transportation Industry to efficiently get about town to move the goods and
services required of all the good people.
And the good people no way to efficiently move to aquire their goods.
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Re: $100M town centre plan

Postby Grandan » Jan 15th, 2018, 8:52 am

Grandan wrote:I just looked at the plan and see that Sutherland is slated to be pushed through to Spall.
https://www.castanet.net/edition/news-s ... htm#216166
It seems a bit much to me.

Wave101 wrote:Your right. Instead of extending Sutherland they should direct all the new traffic caused by the development on to Harvey Ave. Everyone knows there is plenty of room on Harvey Ave for thousands of more cars so why not?

They should totally hire you for any future city designs because you obviously know better.

Seeming a bit much to me and your extension of the argument to suggest I am favour of Harvey is bogus.
After some further review of the plan I went on to say:
The existing road system between Kirschner and Spall is pathetic. You have a choice of deaking through by Princess Auto or taking the lane behind Andres Electronics, neither of which is a proper road. In that respect I can appreciate the rationale for Sutherland extension. Many of the businesses in that area are concrete block warehouses with very limited ability to expand due to lack of proper road access.


This is a plan that will require more review and input and may or may not proceed in it's present form. It seemed a bit much on first look but I am coming around to to concept except for the $100 million hit to taxpayers.
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Re: $100M town centre plan

Postby normaM » Jan 15th, 2018, 9:30 am

Didn't they just spend a bunch to tart up Sutherland? And when ever they say " lots of greenspace" I translate that to a small park bench facing the road.
$100 million? Guess easy enough to say when it isn't your money you are spending.
And then maybe they can come up with another fake tax ( like GST) to off set the costs.
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Re: $100M town centre plan

Postby lightspeed » Jan 15th, 2018, 7:29 pm

normaM wrote:Didn't they just spend a bunch to tart up Sutherland?


If they did I'm not sure what they spent it on. Looks just as ratbagged as ever.
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Re: $100M town centre plan

Postby dirtybiker » Jan 15th, 2018, 9:38 pm

lightspeed wrote:
If they did I'm not sure what they spent it on. Looks just as ratbagged as ever.


I diagree. it does look better, Just nowhere to park a semi now so as to go
get the best darn bagel and cream cheese known.
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Re: $100M town centre plan

Postby cruzwear » Jan 16th, 2018, 10:37 am

Looking at another avenue for traffic to run parallel to the highway is good.. traffic is increasing rapidly with this new housing boom. We must think long term, even if the plan gets tweaked, along the way. It would be a beautiful and useful corridor and would have to be done slowly as buildings come available to redesign to align to the plan.. I think it is a great vision. I am thankful for visionaries... and glad our city is NOT run by those without foresight and imagination like other communities in this valley.
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