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Re: Downtown cameras

Postby Jflem1983 » Feb 19th, 2018, 10:30 am

alanjh595 wrote:I think the time is quickly approaching that all babies born in Canada will be swabbed for a DNA sample and the results will be stored in a national data base.
All Canadian cash should contain an RFID in the bills so they can be tracked and who has possession of them.



Why do u want that.
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Re: Downtown cameras

Postby alanjh595 » Feb 19th, 2018, 11:26 am

Where did I say "I wanted that"?
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Re: Downtown cameras

Postby alanjh595 » Feb 19th, 2018, 11:46 am

What I DO want is, cameras on all forestry roads coming and going, with licence plate recognition, that will monitor illegal dumpers. If a truck comes in loaded with garbage and leaves empty, that would help out the Forest Task people alot.
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Re: Downtown cameras

Postby CapitalB » Feb 19th, 2018, 11:56 am

alanjh595 wrote:I think the time is quickly approaching that all babies born in Canada will be swabbed for a DNA sample and the results will be stored in a national data base.
All Canadian cash should contain an RFID in the bills so they can be tracked and who has possession of them.


That won't be happening any time soon, they don't even share your address between federal agencies when you update it. Our government basically exists in the 90's technology wise.
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Re: Downtown cameras

Postby alanjh595 » Feb 19th, 2018, 12:04 pm

CapitalB wrote:
alanjh595 wrote:I think the time is quickly approaching that all babies born in Canada will be swabbed for a DNA sample and the results will be stored in a national data base.
All Canadian cash should contain an RFID in the bills so they can be tracked and who has possession of them.


That won't be happening any time so, they don't even share your address between federal agencies when you update it. Our government basically exists in the 90's technology wise.


That's true and these changes will probably not happen within my lifetime, but I can see that it's coming. Then again, when I was 12 years old, we had to take a class trip up to Simon Fraser University to see a computer.
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Re: Downtown cameras

Postby Bpeep » Feb 19th, 2018, 12:24 pm

SFU had a computer in the 1930s?
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Re: Downtown cameras

Postby Jflem1983 » Feb 19th, 2018, 12:32 pm

alanjh595 wrote:What I DO want is, cameras on all forestry roads coming and going, with licence plate recognition, that will monitor illegal dumpers. If a truck comes in loaded with garbage and leaves empty, that would help out the Forest Task people alot.



I am those people. If u want to help us. Come out to a clean up. Meet the boys and girls who spend their time and money cleaning up the woods. People bring their kids. Its great.
OFTF is a good thing.
Cameras on city streets are not.

As for the scum dumpers. I wish just once when Kane takes info to the proper people. That the RCMP would actually charge people.

If u added up the cost of the excavator with a big magnet . 1 to 3 bins. A welder with cutting torches. Several atvs and side by sides. Trailers. 30 peoples saturday afternoon.
The list goes on. I bet our bill would be 10k for one clean up.
We do it as volunteers.
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Re: Downtown cameras

Postby alanjh595 » Feb 19th, 2018, 12:35 pm

Bman wrote:SFU had a computer in the 1930s?



:spitcoffee: :laugh: :up:
Ever hear of the "Enigma machine"?
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Re: Downtown cameras

Postby alanjh595 » Feb 19th, 2018, 12:41 pm

BUT....wait a second.......If there are cameras in the trees, where people go to be free of the prying eyes of others and expect privacy......
Wouldn't that be against the desires of those that appose cameras in a highly visible location like....the downtown core?

By the way, Thank you and your crew of volunteers for all of the work that they do on their own time and at their own expense. Your services are MUCH appreciated.
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Re: Downtown cameras

Postby CapitalB » Feb 19th, 2018, 12:47 pm

Jflem1983 wrote:I am those people. If u want to help us. Come out to a clean up. Meet the boys and girls who spend their time and money cleaning up the woods. People bring their kids. Its great.
OFTF is a good thing.
Cameras on city streets are not.

As for the scum dumpers. I wish just once when Kane takes info to the proper people. That the RCMP would actually charge people.

If u added up the cost of the excavator with a big magnet . 1 to 3 bins. A welder with cutting torches. Several atvs and side by sides. Trailers. 30 peoples saturday afternoon.
The list goes on. I bet our bill would be 10k for one clean up.
We do it as volunteers.
Proud to have been in on starting it. Proud to call Kane a friend


I didn't know that was a thing. Everyone involved is doing awesome work.
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Re: Downtown cameras

Postby Fancy » Feb 19th, 2018, 12:58 pm

Jflem1983 wrote:As for the scum dumpers. I wish just once when Kane takes info to the proper people. That the RCMP would actually charge people.

RCMP won't charge people - it would be up to Crown to approve charges that aren't likely to result in a conviction. One needs "proof" and cameras recording those people would help.
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Re: Downtown cameras

Postby CapitalB » Feb 19th, 2018, 2:12 pm

Fancy wrote:
Jflem1983 wrote:As for the scum dumpers. I wish just once when Kane takes info to the proper people. That the RCMP would actually charge people.

RCMP won't charge people - it would be up to Crown to approve charges that aren't likely to result in a conviction. One needs "proof" and cameras recording those people would help.


I think the best thing would be a system of drones, similar to these ones, that if we invested a bit into them could watch for forest fires, loggers, dumpers, etc document and report them. Would that be much different from a bunch of cameras downtown? I think so since they would generally fly high and only come down to inspect law breakers.
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Re: Downtown cameras

Postby alanjh595 » Feb 19th, 2018, 2:19 pm

CapitalB wrote:I think the best thing would be a system of drones, similar to these ones, that if we invested a bit into them could watch for forest fires, loggers, dumpers, etc document and report them. Would that be much different from a bunch of cameras downtown? I think so since they would generally fly high and only come down to inspect law breakers.


so? what's the difference between your idea and that of having cameras mounted on poles that observe for criminal activity, calling the police and have them investigate the circumstances?
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Re: Downtown cameras

Postby Jflem1983 » Feb 19th, 2018, 2:24 pm

alanjh595 wrote:
CapitalB wrote:I think the best thing would be a system of drones, similar to these ones, that if we invested a bit into them could watch for forest fires, loggers, dumpers, etc document and report them. Would that be much different from a bunch of cameras downtown? I think so since they would generally fly high and only come down to inspect law breakers.


so? what's the difference between your idea and that of having cameras mounted on poles that observe for criminal activity, calling the police and have them investigate the circumstances?


K well lets at least arm the drones with tazers
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Re: Downtown cameras

Postby CapitalB » Feb 19th, 2018, 2:30 pm

alanjh595 wrote:
CapitalB wrote:I think the best thing would be a system of drones, similar to these ones, that if we invested a bit into them could watch for forest fires, loggers, dumpers, etc document and report them. Would that be much different from a bunch of cameras downtown? I think so since they would generally fly high and only come down to inspect law breakers.


so? what's the difference between your idea and that of having cameras mounted on poles that observe for criminal activity, calling the police and have them investigate the circumstances?


You can see a lot more from way up in the air than you can from thirty or fourty feet up a pole? Mobility means you would need significantly less of them to cover an area, and they could drop in the get close ups of lawbreakers at need.
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