Defending property with force....Castanet poll

[Jflem1983]

The law needs to say u can blast some a hole in your hallway. No questions asked

[WalterWhite]

The law needs to say u can blast some a hole in your hallway. No questions asked

I understand people’s frustration, but I still prefer that over becoming Florida of the North.

[Sparki55]

https://www.castanet.net/edition/news-story-220399-2-.htm#220399

These kind of stories is why people feel the need to defend their own property. The thief in the storey has been stealing from one particular area for 5 months. The storey does not state when the RCMP were first contacted to deal with this but I am sure it was months ago; no one would let this go on for more than a couple months.

This thief does not fear the property owners or the cops and will continue to creep around these unfortunate people until arrested. To bad he doesn't fear for his life when trespassing, maybe that would make him think twice.

[JagXKR]

They won't even come to your house unless someone is hurt.

You know this how? Until you are in the position of 4 people (drunk teenagers) trying to force the door to your house open and you are inside yelling at them to go away you will never know will you.

Been there done that and the RCMP responded in less than 5 min. So I say BS to your statement.

They won't respond to a car accident unless there are injuries but that's different.

Did you not read this:

https://www.castanet.net/news/Penticton ... ays-attend

“We will probably not be responding to theft from automobiles anywhere with an emergency vehicle, but we will be taking a call over the phone and giving a file number for insurance purposes… That will in turn allow us to patrol more.”

And this

De Jager said Penticton RCMP responded to 744 thefts from vehicles in 2017 and charged only three people.

744 thefts and 3 charged. With more patrols are they hoping that they might charge 5 or 6? Maybe they can start blaming the victims again, like they always do.

[mexi cali]

I will stand up and defend my right to protect my property, my home and my family in a court of law. What I won't do is allow anyone to try and take it from me.

Here is a handy home criminal deterent product readily available at your local HD or HH.

Effective and cheap. Burns the eyes somethin fierce. Guaranteed to stop an aresehole dead in his tracks and if he happens to accidentally ingest enough and he's maybe a bit on the delicate side?? Why, just plain dead!!

Why, it even says "defense system" on the can and it sprays up to 22 feet!! Yee haw, come on in and try some jack wagon.

[CapitalB]

If you have stuff worth shooting someone to protect you should have insurance on it. If you have insurance on it you should be significantly less concerned with stopping the thieves. If your stuff is insured but your still itching to fire off a warning shot you probably just want to shoot your gun and scare people.

[Frisk]

Wouldn't it be great if we lived in a world where you could own something nice without having to worry about insuring it because people respect each others property?

[Poindexter]

Along the same lines as Raid, years ago the Fire Department did a presentation to our staff regarding fire safety and he had some good advice. A 20 lb fire extinguisher is not only smart to have beside your bed in case of a fire, it can also blind and lay a severe beating on a thief while not being considered a weapon.

[CapitalB]

Wouldn't it be great if we lived in a world where you could own something nice without having to worry about insuring it because people respect each others property?

It absolutely would be glorious. I don't think guns are the answer to that problem though. It looks like more of a problem stemming from poverty, mental health issues, lack of recreational activities, and just a general lack of community support infrastructure. Especially in the case of this specific incident I think all those things were likely a factor.

[LTD]

Wouldn't it be great if we lived in a world where you could own something nice without having to worry about insuring it because people respect each others property?

It absolutely would be glorious. I don't think guns are the answer to that problem though. It looks like more of a problem stemming from poverty, mental health issues, lack of recreational activities, and just a general lack of community support infrastructure. Especially in the case of this specific incident I think all those things were likely a factor.

no its drugs mostly crackheads meth heads heroin ya know that sort of thing

[CapitalB]

no its drugs mostly crackheads meth heads heroin ya know that sort of thing

Like I said: a problem stemming from poverty, mental health issues, lack of recreational activities, and just a general lack of community support infrastructure. Cause thats how drug problems happen.

[mexi cali]

Wouldn't it be great if we lived in a world where you could own something nice without having to worry about insuring it because people respect each others property?

It absolutely would be glorious. I don't think guns are the answer to that problem though. It looks like more of a problem stemming from poverty, mental health issues, lack of recreational activities, and just a general lack of community support infrastructure. Especially in the case of this specific incident I think all those things were likely a factor.

You're right. Guns aren't the answer. People not breaking in to homes that aren't theirs and stealing things that don't belong to them is the answer. Until that glorious day arrives though, guns are part of the answer.

I get really tired of people whose only response is "it's just stuff". It's not worth a life". Maybe not, but the notion that we all should be OK with drug addicts and other assorted folks taking our stuff in order to support their habits and lifestyle choices is offensive.

Just becasue you're poor, drug addicted, mentally unstable, come from an abusive background or any other manner of issues that plague so many in our midst does not now nor has it ever been an excuse to steal.

It does no one any good to try to explain away criminal behavior. The everyday folks in our world are getting left behind in a sea of pity and sadness for those who do nothing but take what is not theirs and hurt those to who it belongs if they don't willingly stand back and let themselves become victims.

Why is it so wrong to not want to lose personal belongings that you have worked hard for?

Maybe we should start a ritual where once each week, we place some of our "just stuff" out on the lawn for the night stalkers to view at their leisure and take what they need? Sounds like a plan. No one gets hurt. They get their money and we get to know that we won't be judged as harsh or unfeeling because we have other stuff.

And it is just stuff, afterall.

[CapitalB]

Why is it so wrong to not want to lose personal belongings that you have worked hard for?

Mostly because your increasing the danger for yourself and the people in your home significantly if you chose to turn a home invasion into a shoot out. Sure your a responsible firearm owner, and you feel comfortable unloading in the general direction of the intruder. How do you feel about a sketched out meth addict firing a gun in your home?

Secondly if it is insured you should be able to file a report and be reimbursed for the items that have been stolen. This is ultimately going to be less work than a self defense manslaughter charge, it will also be significantly safer for every person that lives inside bullet range of your home.

[the truth]

Yup Mr. Criminal ... it's called a consequence of your actions.

And if there was more of it there would be way less crime/rape/assaults/etc ... it's only because we polite Canadians are so soft on everything that this antisocial behavior is so rampant ...

exactly........... i do not go around wanting to hurt people, never have, but if you want to break into my home while i am there, i will f your s it up. sorry officer he said he had a gun and was going to shoot me, so i shot him first,maybe some of you soft on crime wimps would let some crackhead rob your home or rape your wife and kids , not this guy

[the truth]

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