KGH tightens security

[the truth]

https://www.castanet.net/edition/news-s ... htm#221071 pretty sad, when you need security 24/7 because of violent junkies ,if they can not behave kick them out

[Bsuds]

It's not just "junkies" that can be violent. There are other medical issues that can result in violence as well.

I don't think kicking them out would be a viable option and no matter what the cause we all deserve Medical care in a safe environment.

[WalterWhite]

https://www.castanet.net/edition/news-story-221071-1-.htm#221071 pretty sad, when you need security 24/7 because of violent junkies ,if they can not behave kick them out

Funny, I saw no reference to “violent druggies” in that link. Drunks can be very violent. Some people simply have an aggressive personality. It’s not always just “druggies” that cause problems. Btw, there has already been security at KGH for some time.

In addition to existing security at KGH, the two additional security officers began covering the 6 p.m. to midnight and midnight to 6 a.m. shifts this week.

[TylerM4]

Violent patients typically fall into 4 categories:
- Drunk/high on drugs or Opioid addict that came in as an overdose and was given Narcan. (instant dope sick and mad that their high got ruined).
- Dementia (very common. Outside of the ER, patients suffering from Dementia are the most likely patients to be violent)
- Mental Health patients
- Patients acting erratically because of the medications given to them while in hospital care. Most common is the patient waking up after a surgical procedure.

The ER also ends up dealing with violence as a result of the conflict/event that lead to the ER visit in the 1st place. Domestic disputes, fights, etc. Not uncommon for violence to occur in the waiting room. Most recent example of this I saw involved 2 patients brought to ER due to car accident. Accusations that 1 was drunk, family members wanting "justice". etc.

ER is definitely the highest risk area at the moment. I think the pilot project is a good idea, I just hope they use security guards who are capable of dealing with a violent individual. Seen a few around KGH who are grossly overweight or look to be 70 years old. Pretty bad when other patients (or their family) end up protecting the security guards.

[the truth]

you are correct and i agree, but lets not pretend , that this move for extra security is not because of violent junkies

[the truth]

It's not just "junkies" that can be violent. There are other medical issues that can result in violence as well.

I don't think kicking them out would be a viable option and no matter what the cause we all deserve Medical care in a safe environment.

you are correct ---we---- as you say all deserve safe medical care , have you every been at kgh when these people roll in, they make it unsafe for everyone else ,if they can not behave kick them out, its on them ,,no one else

[Bsuds]

if they can not behave kick them out, its on them ,,no one else

While I don't totally disagree then what happens if they are violent because of a life threatening issue and die because they were refused admission? That's kind of cruel don't you think?

[Triple 6]

you are correct and i agree, but lets not pretend , that this move for extra security is not because of violent junkies

oh good. you've corrected yourself. from the article:

The move follows a meeting in February between the parties to address safety concerns brought forward by nursing staff regarding combative and sometimes violent patients.

[the truth]

if they can not behave kick them out, its on them ,,no one else

While I don't totally disagree then what happens if they are violent because of a life threatening issue and die because they were refused admission? That's kind of cruel don't you think?

well that's on them not kgh, imo

[alanjh595]

A public hospital such as KGH does not have the right to turn away patients.

http://publications.gc.ca/Collection-R/ ... m#c.%C2%A0 Patients%E2%80%99 txt

[WalterWhite]

This is really just another opportunity for you to bash junkies. The problem is much more diverse, however your thoughts on the matter are very well preceded so it’s no surprise there’s a complete disregard for fact or opinion stating otherwise.

[MAPearce]

It's not just "junkies" that can be violent. There are other medical issues that can result in violence as well.

I don't think kicking them out would be a viable option and no matter what the cause we all deserve Medical care in a safe environment.

Most of the wallops MrsMA gets are from dementia patients not from junkies... And a lot of the verbal abuse comes from family members of patients..

About time for more security ...

[jasonjb]

It's not just "junkies" that can be violent. There are other medical issues that can result in violence as well.

I don't think kicking them out would be a viable option and no matter what the cause we all deserve Medical care in a safe environment.

Most of the wallops MrsMA gets are from dementia patients not from junkies... And a lot of the verbal abuse comes from family members of patients..

About time for more security ...

My fiance has also been attacked by dementia patients

[youjustcomplain]

While I don't totally disagree then what happens if they are violent because of a life threatening issue and die because they were refused admission? That's kind of cruel don't you think?

well that's on them not kgh, imo

Not really. When a patient comes to the hospital, they're at their worst. They're hurting, they're ill. To turn them away would be cruel. Do you think most people would be happy knowing that someone they refused to help, later died from their condition that could have been treated?

The way they act is on them, but the way they are treated is not.

[the truth]

A public hospital such as KGH does not have the right to turn away patients.

http://publications.gc.ca/Collection-R/ ... m#c.%C2%A0 Patients%E2%80%99 txt

sad but true