Homeless....living underground.

[artistwithaflare]

Unfortunately, anyone who is ''addicted'' or, has a major disability does not make for a reliable/good employee!
Seniors on the street are sick and too frail to work.
We need housing and resources for helping.

[Poindexter]

Unfortunately, anyone who is ''addicted'' or, has a major disability does not make for a reliable/good employee!
Seniors on the street are sick and too frail to work.
We need housing and resources for helping.

Despite all the evidence to the contrary, many people are under the impression that spending as little as possible to directly deal with the chronically homeless saves us money. All that does is push the responsibility downstream to more costly care options such as the hospital, courts and jails.

[Fancy]

What do you do with people that won't adhere to any rules? That's a major question that should be asked at all levels.

[Poindexter]

What do you do with people that won't adhere to any rules? That's a major question that should be asked at all levels.

Never a bad idea to develop a strategy for dealing with the exceptions but that shouldn't stop us from implementing a cost effective plan designed to deal with the majority.

[Fancy]

I wonder if there are that many exceptions. Too many stories of those not wanting to use shelters because of the rules.

[artistwithaflare]

One needs to understand the atmosphere in a Shelter!
Some of homeless have addictions, mental health issues , are gang members and some have disabilities....or they have been displaced for one reason or another?
'Sleeping' in a shelter is not the easiest thing to do!
and frankly, its a little frightening to say the least!

[alanjh595]

I can imagine what it is like to have to seek shelter.
Forced to sleep in a room full of strangers.
Some are thieves, some are mentally ill and you don't turn your back on them.
Some are drug addicted and could change personalities in the wink of an eye.
You are given a cot with a plastic wrapped mattress.
Your nearest bed mate could be suffering from an infectious disease, smells really bad, and/or snores in the decibel range exceeding a jet aircraft taking off.
You don't dare snore yourself, because your bunkie might slit your throat for doing so.
You can't allow yourself to fall into deep sleep (REM), because that is when you will be the most vulnerable.
You may have to defend your presence there with physical confrontation.
you don't know if you might wake up to some strung out, whack-a-doodle trying to rape you in the middle of the night.

All you want is a warm,safe, place to sleep and a hot meal, none will offered. YES, I can understand that sleeping in a sub-grade, utilities vault might be a better alternative to what is currently available.

[Bpeep]

*removed*

[Urban Cowboy]

*removed*

[hupur]

I couldn't imagine having all my possessions stuffed into a shopping cart & then sleeping in a utility vault ? This problem started some years ago when our Federal & Provincial Governments closed the care facilities that so many of these people require.
Then there are those that simply can't afford accommodations ? We should be looking at solutions that have worked in other cities ? Like exactly what did Medicine Hat or other places come up with to fix the problem ?
And no I don't want Maxine Dehart flying out there looking.

So what about the homeless everywhere else? did our government cause that too?
Its a world wide issue.We the ones with homes are the enablers..we bleeding heart suckers who donate money or cans or food whatever and dont report small things stolen are the ones who enable them..If we stopped they would die off like dinasaurs..but we dont want to see that .....so............

[alanjh595]

So what about the homeless everywhere else? did our government cause that too?
Its a world wide issue.We the ones with homes are the enablers..we bleeding heart suckers who donate money or cans or food whatever and dont report small things stolen are the ones who enable them..If we stopped they would die off like dinasaurs..but we dont want to see that .....so............

How come there are soooo many more here during the Spring and Summer months?

[Jlabute]

If homeless people are living underground, then it’s time to bring John Spartan out of cryostasis.

[the truth]

So what about the homeless everywhere else? did our government cause that too?
Its a world wide issue.We the ones with homes are the enablers..we bleeding heart suckers who donate money or cans or food whatever and dont report small things stolen are the ones who enable them..If we stopped they would die off like dinasaurs..but we dont want to see that .....so............

How come there are soooo many more here during the Spring and Summer months?

drugs drugs and more drugs, the weather, and soft on crime kelowna,

[alanjh595]

How come there are soooo many more here during the Spring and Summer months?

drugs drugs and more drugs, the weather, and soft on crime kelowna,

Since the laws are provincial or federal, we can take that point out of the equation.

Now, do the addicts come here for the mild weather and free handouts? OR Do they come here because the dealers come here for the weather, clientele, and fun?

Do the dealers come here to supply the users and enjoy the pleasant atmosphere during the warmer months or do the addicts come here because of the availability of the drugs?

It becomes, "What came first". The chicken or the egg?

[Because_They_Lie]

So what about the homeless everywhere else? did our government cause that too?
Its a world wide issue.We the ones with homes are the enablers..we bleeding heart suckers who donate money or cans or food whatever and dont report small things stolen are the ones who enable them..If we stopped they would die off like dinasaurs..but we dont want to see that .....so............

How come there are soooo many more here during the Spring and Summer months?

Ask Quebec