Casino Strike

[Temet Nosce]

It would be interesting to see the stats on playnow business. I am sure they will make up some losses there from those who won't cross a picket line. And many will cross...I suspect more and more the longer the strike lasts.

[forumdoug]

I know the BCGEU represents all staff, including nurses, for a large local private senior care facility. Headquartered in Kelowna but sites all over. I'll leave you to find their CA on the BCGEU website at your convenience.

Geez, thanks. *heavy sarcasm* ;)

The BCGEU's website is astrociously organized, in my view, and it's not easy (if not downright impossible) to find a comprehensive list of employers they represent, let alone collective agreements ("CA" that gman referred to, for those likely also not sure). :(

Cheers,
Doug

[forumdoug]

When Casinos first opened I just assumed the employees received good wages ? Not true.

The self serving BCGEU has told these poor employees that they are being taken advantage of and instilled them with a victim mentality. It is still my opinion that this is a test by the BCGEU to see how much disinformation these Casino employees will believe, and how far they can lead their members down a ruinous path. The Casino members are a small portion of the BCGEU, and this is a good test to see what they can get away with be in terms dispensing self serving advice that is better for the Union versus it's members. The BCGEU will see how this micro strike goes before strategizing how much bad advice they can give before tackling more lucrative contracts such as the Nurses.

Well said! And it's a lot easier for the BCGEU to make the casino workers whole, as was mentioned earlier, with their so-called "target pay" for low paid casino workers than it is for them to do so for their well-heeled public servants, who make up the lion's share of their windfall, tax-free revenues. :(

Cheers,
Doug

[forumdoug]

I can't give my sources because I would incriminate myself and them so I'll say this. All four sites are closed two days a week. No poker rooms. No restaurants. Only one site with 4 tables. So you do the math. I suspect you're a manager on the inside anyway so I think you probably do know the actual number. It doesn't matter the $$$ amount. It's a loss and it will continue to accumulate. I, on the other hand, will continue to cash a cheque every week. Tax free too.

Fair point, but it's still rumour and speculation without someone going on the record and citing clear evidence. Plus, even if were completely true, your suggestion that we "do the math" is impractical because, quite simply, there's not enough data to do the math!

Your attitude strikes me as one part self-serving, one half part smug, and one large part naive. The first two are self-explanatory (or should be) and, in the latter, you wait till this strike drags on for 6, 9, 12 months, or longer, and the BCGEU uses hard-driving tactics (including reductions in your "target pay") to effect an end to the strike and you'll see who is really in the driver's seat: BCGEU union bosses representing your much more well-heeled public servant cousins with obese pensions, who make up the bulk of BCGEU's membership base. :(

Cheers,
Doug

[Kelownah]

What's with the protesters physically blocking traffic trying to get into the hotel parking area? They will actually block you by standing in front of your vehicle as you try to enter. Not safe at all. Someone is going to get hurt

[common_sense_guy]

I believe some of the protesters are blocking people and it would be nice to get some footage of it to see what's going on for real and how they're acting. And I haven't read through every post but has anybody come forward with an accurate amount of what they make in tips a night and even if they pay taxes on it? All I hear is them complaining about their slightly above minimum wage but nothing about tips. Surely one of these so-called reporters or journalists out there could try and find out. Pretty important fact for the story so people can get an accurate clear picture of what the situation really is. If it's 12 to $13 an hour then yeah I have a little more Sympathy for the workers. If its 12 to $13 Plus 8 to $10 an hour in tips then no not at all. I can't see it being less than $6 an hour or more.

[Vacancyrate]

If its 12 to $13 Plus 8 to $10 an hour in tips then no not at all. I can't see it being less than $6 an hour or more.

A tip is a reward for good service.

A tip is not designed to be a supplement for poor wages.

...unless you want it to be mandatory and automatically added to your bill.

[OKkayak]

A tip is a reward for good service.

A tip is not designed to be a supplement for poor wages.

The original concept of tips went bye bye a long time ago.

[Jflem1983]

If its 12 to $13 Plus 8 to $10 an hour in tips then no not at all. I can't see it being less than $6 an hour or more.

A tip is a reward for good service.

A tip is not designed to be a supplement for poor wages.

...unless you want it to be mandatory and automatically added to your bill.

Tips are added at more and more places. It is getting ridiculous. Every pin pad wants a tip now. For counter service . Sometimes it is even added automatically onto the bill.


That being said. Would anyone like to provide a list of places in town with good service

[forumdoug]

What's with the protesters physically blocking traffic trying to get into the hotel parking area? They will actually block you by standing in front of your vehicle as you try to enter. Not safe at all. Someone is going to get hurt

Your comment made me think of the double standard at play here: when striking union members physically interfere with traffic, both pedestrian and vehicle, it's lauded and supported. When homeless people beg for spare change at intersections, a bylaw enforcement crackdown ensues. :(

Cheers,
Doug

[soupy]

I wish I had stopped to confirm yesterday. But I saw 2 BCGEU members wearing their signs yesterday walking down a side street a block away from the Casino they are picketing yet. Pretty positive they were opening drinking beers

[alanjh595]

I wish I had stopped to confirm yesterday. But I saw 2 BCGEU members wearing their signs yesterday walking down a side street a block away from the Casino they are picketing yet. Pretty positive they were opening drinking beers

Could have just as easily been a Pepsi or water too. I was hot out there yesterday.

[gman313]

Geez, thanks. *heavy sarcasm* ;)

The BCGEU's website is astrociously organized, in my view, and it's not easy (if not downright impossible) to find a comprehensive list of employers they represent, let alone collective agreements ("CA" that gman referred to, for those likely also not sure). :(

Cheers,
Doug

It's no the cleanest site but expired CA's are easy to find. Not sure why one needs a comprehensive list of employees (they represent employees, not employers, as you suggest) they represent. BCGEU is a private organization that represents both private and public sector employees, not sure why the entitlement to this information.

[soupy]

I wish I had stopped to confirm yesterday. But I saw 2 BCGEU members wearing their signs yesterday walking down a side street a block away from the Casino they are picketing yet. Pretty positive they were opening drinking beers

Could have just as easily been a Pepsi or water too. I was hot out there yesterday.

Rarely do I see water in a can.
And as i said i wish i could have stopped to confirm because it could have been anything.

Although it did appear to be the same colour and design of a major beer brand. And definitely odd it was being done over on a side street.

[alanjh595]

So, instead of giving them the benefit of the doubt, just accuse them of doing something that is illegal, immoral and fattening ??