Summerland farm land development proposal

[Daspoot]

That sounds great. I'm not sure it's possible though. There would be a lot of change to push through, and much of it gets fought tooth and nail by many who don't even fully understand the matters they so firmly oppose.


I guess we just all have to do what we can for our respective communities.

[fluffy]

We need more employment that pays better than minimum wage, Yes the tourists are important and we need them too, but we need to have a reason for them to come here.

That, in a nutshell, is it. The big question is how to achieve those goals. Summerland consists largely of people who are content to conduct the majority of their business, be it work, shopping, or whatever, out of town. Unless there is a grassroots shift towards supporting local business in a big way there will likely be no expansion/diversification of available products and services, and until there is an expansion/diversification of available products and services there will likely be no increase in support. If you have to blame somebody for the current state of the local economy, that blame has to rest on the residents, not local government.

[old boy]

The downtown business's arent doing themselves any favours by signing a petition against the growth proposal, based on the value of ALR land, not on the issue of future growth plans. It amazes me that in the 1996 OCP the no growth crowd on Council directed growth to the Prairie Valley area, then when the growth was about to happen in 2004/5,in the name of Summerland Hills GR,they objected to that , saying that the ground out there was perfectly good for agriculture and didn't want it excluded, but now that ground isn't comparable to the ground that is proposed for exclusion? They can talk all they want about saving ALR land and feeding the world, but when it comes rite down to it, it really is no growth!!
You need growth to just help sustain what we have, never mind trying to do any major upgrades or replacements of current services.

[old boy]

http://www.castanet.net/edition/news-st ... htm#109866
Signs vandalized,too bad these people aren't paying any attention to the "anti bullying" message!!!

[Anonymous123]

http://www.castanet.net/edition/news-story-109866-21-.htm#109866
Signs vandalized,too bad these people aren't paying any attention to the "anti bullying" message!!!

Bullying? That's quite a stretch there old boy.

[twobits]

Bullying? That's quite a stretch there old boy.

Not really. What do you call defacing in order to make illegible not one but five signs erected for the general public's information? There is information on the proposed swap as well as public meeting times. The motive is to stifle and to keep away those that may actually support the proposal. It is nothing short of an attack on the democratic process and regimes of the past and present that stifle discussion and due process are the definition of bullies.

[fluffy]

I don't know if "bullying" is the best word for it, but it's lowbrow crap to be sure. These are the sort of people that make it wise to have cops at the meeting come Monday, the kind of people that see nothing wrong with shouting down someone who's opinion differs from their own.

[Anonymous123]

Bullying? That's quite a stretch there old boy.

Not really. What do you call defacing in order to make illegible not one but five signs erected for the general public's information? There is information on the proposed swap as well as public meeting times. The motive is to stifle and to keep away those that may actually support the proposal. It is nothing short of an attack on the democratic process and regimes of the past and present that stifle discussion and due process are the definition of bullies.

I call it vandalism.

Vandalism-

Examples of vandalism include salting lawns, cutting trees without permission, egg throwing, breaking windows, arson, spraying paint on others' properties, tagging, placing glue into locks, tire slashing, keying (scratching) paint, ransacking a property, and flooding a house by clogging a sink and leaving the water running.

Politically motivated vandalism.

In elections, opposing candidates' supporters may engage in "political vandalism" - the act of defacing opponents' political posters, bumper stickers, billboards, and other street marketing material. Although the nature of this material is temporary, its effect can be long-lasting as it may reflect both negatively and positively on the candidate whose material is being vandalized as well as on the presumed candidate whose supporters are engaging in the vandalism.

Bullying-

Bullying may be defined as the activity of repeated, aggressive behavior intended to hurt another person, physically or mentally. Bullying is characterized by an individual behaving in a certain way to gain power over another person.

[0gopogo]

The "Stop the Swap" people are saying it wasn't one of them who defaced the sign.
Just wondering what makes them so sure????

[Giants Head]

Now that the Monday night meeting is over does anyone want to talk about The Silent Majority.

[Corneliousrooster]

Now that the Monday night meeting is over does anyone want to talk about The Silent Majority.

Ya - we stayed home to give the vocal minority a chance to get their rocks off, so they can't come out 6 months from now and say they never had a chance to vocalize their emotional based opinions.......

Council gets paid to listen, the rest of us don't.

[Anonymous123]

Council votes on their future in politics tonight.



http://www.castanet.net/edition/news-story-110659-21-.htm#110659

[grammafreddy]

How did this go?

[rubato]

http://globalnews.ca/news/1199858/no-de ... land-swap/

[twobits]

http://globalnews.ca/news/1199858/no-decision-in-summerland-land-swap/

Another waste of time town hall meeting where a group of passionate people will dominate making a read on the feelings of the community as a whole impossible. Contentious items like this should always go to a plebiscite as the prison in Penticton did. With a municipal election in November it makes perfect sense. What is the rush to judgement with this opportunity available? I would have nothing but respect for any politician that said "we can't get a read on where the community stands on this significant decision so we are putting it to the people".
Might even make people more engaged in civic politics and increase voter turnout if there is more at stake than figuring out who to vote for based on who you dislike the least.