Pet-eating cougars killed

[Buckeye19]

With the urban deer population exploding and city councils unwilling to do anything you can expect to see much more of this in the future. Sadly, it won't be long until a child is taken.

[Fancy]

People need to realize relocation does not work

[Buckeye19]

Instead of responding, use the report function - Jennylives

[Graham Adder]

removed - Jennylives

Relocation is not always an option. In this case it certainly was not a safe option.
Do you need it explained to you why a cat that can and will travel great distances to get back to what it finds familiar would be dangerous to relocate?
Do you need to have it explained to you why these cats, that are territorial cannot just be dropped in a new area and expected to remain and adapt to that location?
removed - Jennylives

[solidfiction]

try reposting without personal attacks - Jennylives

[baconbits]

People need to realize relocation does not work

That statement is not true. It depends on the circumstance.

It has worked before, so you can't say that it doesn't.

[baconbits]

relocating habituated animals does not work.

That statement is more accurate.

[baconbits]

For all those people who think that relocation simply doesn't work:

http://www.rmoutlook.com/article/201206 ... -relocated

Moving bears is not uncommon for the area. This spring, four black bears have been relocated from Canmore. The last grizzly was moved last year after it was caught eating sheep at the YMCA Camp Chief Hector. The process is expensive and survival rates vary between 10 and 50 per cent, depending on the bear. Officials know it’s not an ideal situation and would rather focus more attention on education.

This relates to bears, I believe cougars have a lesser rate of survival.

It comes down to education and prevention, and guess what that's up to us.

[Graham Adder]

For all those people who think that relocation simply doesn't work...

It comes down to education and prevention, and guess what that's up to us.

Not in this case.
It came down to these cats needing to be exterminated for the safety of a community.

[baconbits]

Not in this case.

I was making a point in general, not in this case specifically.

However those owners we're pretty careless after the first few pets we're eaten.

[baconbits]

Good article by a seasoned C.O.

http://www.canadiangeographic.ca/magazi ... onment.asp


How many people actually take the below considerations seriously?

LIVESTOCK HUSBANDRY

Livestock management and predator management can effectively reduce livestock losses. Listed below are husbandry techniques that can help reduce predation:
Livestock confinement (not allowing livestock out onto a pasture) may prevent predation - this however is not a feasible option for most farmers. Penning livestock at night is another option to help reduce predation.
Adding lighting to a pen or corral will also help to deter predators - livestock will quickly adapt to the lighting.
Spring livestock birthing coincides with predator birthing and can result in high levels of predation in the spring and earlier summer because predators are trying to feed their young.
Having livestock born inside barns or sheds will usually prevent predation and will also reduce newborn deaths that result from inclement weather.
Altering livestock birthing times until later in the spring or summer can reduce predation.
Avoid using pastures that have had a history of predation.
Pastures that are closer to buildings and human activity can be safer for young livestock.
Pastures with rough terrain or with dense vegetation bordering them offer cover for predators.
Check on the status and condition of livestock regularly in order to ensure that predator problems are identified quickly.
Regularly counting livestock is important in large pastures or areas with heavy cover where dead livestock could remain unnoticed. It is not unusual for livestock producers that don't regularly count their herd to suffer substantial losses before they identify that they have a predator problem.
Sick, injured or old livestock should be removed from the herd as predators may key in on these animals. Once a predator identifies livestock as easy prey it will likely continue to kill even healthy animals.
Keep records and identify each animal through tagging or branding to make it easier to identify losses.
Keep a journal of predator problems. Over time this journal can be used to show areas or time periods in which predator problems peak. Preventative measures can then be taken.
Remove livestock and poultry carcasses by burying, incinerating or rendering to reduce attractants.
Refer to Livestock Harassment and Predator Control and Prevention.

PETS

Roaming pets are easy prey for cougars, keep them leashed or behind a fence.
Bring your pet in at night. If the pet must be left out at night confine it to a kennel with a secure top.
Don’t feed the pet outside. The pet food might attract young cougars or small animals such as squirrels or raccoons which cougars prey upon.
Place domestic livestock in an enclosed shed or barn at night.

Source: http://www.env.gov.bc.ca/cos/info/wildl ... ugars.html

[Fancy]

That statement is not true. It depends on the circumstance.

It has worked before, so you can't say that it doesn't.

Give me one example where problem cougars like these two have been successfully relocated. This isn't about prevention but about two cougars too familiarized with humans that needed to be put down.

http://www.canadiangeographic.ca/magazi ... onment.asp

[baconbits]

Give me one example where problem cougars like these two have been successfully relocated. This isn't about prevention but about two cougars too familiarized with humans that needed to be put down.

http://www.canadiangeographic.ca/magazi ... onment.asp

You need to read what you post Fancy. You said

People need to realize re-location doesn't work

Well your not very specific in your post, it sounds as though you are saying that it doesn't work period, no matter what the circumstance. Which is far from reality.

I have never stated that re-location would have worked for these cougars in question. On the contrary, I have stated that once they get used to an easy meal there is not much hope left for them.

You don't really here of "successful relocation" of cougars. If they don't make the news again, then one's to assume they havn't been back which in tern means it was successful.

There are many stories out there of cougars being re-located. In most cases they have not begun to eat domestic pets yet which is key.

Pet/Property owners need to be held more accountable for they're ignorance in many situations involving wildlife/human conflicts.

http://www.comoxvalleyrecord.com/news/136279628.html

[Fancy]

I shouldn't have to be that specific when the topic is about the two pet-eating cougars put down and I was responding to a post that was removed. I have read the link you posted before (back in 2011) but it has nothing to do with the topic and people wanting these two relocated.

You don't really here of "successful relocation" of cougars. If they don't make the news again, then one's to assume they havn't been back which in tern means it was successful.

Not necessarily.