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Re: So, a ski hill on a glacier?

Postby grammafreddy » Nov 21st, 2012, 12:59 am

That's a minor point. How do ya feel about the way the Liberals have gone about all this - incorporating a new town where there are no residents, no buildings, etc for a ski resort that does not yet exist and which may never exist, and if it did would be about the size of Silver Star - and appointing a new city council for that non-existing town who will have carte blanche to make decisions over all kinds of developments and *ahem* favours to friends and etceteras?
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Re: So, a ski hill on a glacier?

Postby Homeownertoo » Nov 21st, 2012, 2:18 am

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Homeownertoo wrote:Great news. I look forward to riding my skis down its slopes and enjoying its restaurants and condos. A nice addition to the Kootenays amenities.


You approve of the way its gone down so far?

The local are none too pleased.

What locals? I thought this was in the middle of BC's last remaining chunk of wilderness. There will always be naysayers. The issue is, what are the pros and cons from a reasonable point of view.
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Re: So, a ski hill on a glacier?

Postby Captain Awesome » Nov 21st, 2012, 9:44 am

grammafreddy wrote:How do ya feel about the way the Liberals have gone about all this - incorporating a new town where there are no residents, no buildings, etc for a ski resort that does not yet exist and which may never exist, and if it did would be about the size of Silver Star - and appointing a new city council for that non-existing town who will have carte blanche to make decisions over all kinds of developments and *ahem* favours to friends and etceteras?


I feel absolutely neutral on this. Doesn't strike me as an issue - given the circumstances of middle of nowhere, no people living around, and need for certain elements from legal point of view - municipality, city council, etc.
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Re: So, a ski hill on a glacier?

Postby Rwede » Nov 21st, 2012, 10:22 am

grammafreddy wrote:That's a minor point. How do ya feel about the way the Liberals have gone about all this - incorporating a new town where there are no residents, no buildings, etc for a ski resort that does not yet exist and which may never exist, and if it did would be about the size of Silver Star - and appointing a new city council for that non-existing town who will have carte blanche to make decisions over all kinds of developments and *ahem* favours to friends and etceteras?



You mean planning ahead and putting people in place to do things properly is a bad idea? Okay. :137:
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Re: So, a ski hill on a glacier?

Postby hobbyguy » Nov 21st, 2012, 11:56 am

I can't figure out the economics of this proposed development. To me, it looks like a "promoter's dream" where the promoter gets rich, and the investors get hammered.

What do you figure they will get per skier day?

Would they be able to exceed the average number of skier days per resort, given that it will likely be pricey and local skiers are 1/3 of the market?

How much would you be willing to spend to ski there?
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Re: So, a ski hill on a glacier?

Postby grammafreddy » Nov 21st, 2012, 12:08 pm

There is no ski resort. There may never be a ski resort. There's no reason to incorporate a town there yet.
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Re: So, a ski hill on a glacier?

Postby Captain Awesome » Nov 21st, 2012, 2:39 pm

hobbyguy wrote:I can't figure out the economics of this proposed development. To me, it looks like a "promoter's dream" where the promoter gets rich, and the investors get hammered.


You'd have to take a look at partnership structure to make those observations, and I don't think they're even hammered out yet, so I wouldn't jump into conclusion here.
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Re: So, a ski hill on a glacier?

Postby SurplusElect » Nov 21st, 2012, 3:09 pm

Waste of money paying salaries considering there is no investors and it will be shut down when the NDP get in power.
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Re: So, a ski hill on a glacier?

Postby Rwede » Nov 21st, 2012, 3:14 pm

SurplusElect wrote:Waste of money paying salaries considering there is no investors and it will be shut down when the NDP get in power.



For once I agree with Bago about the NDP. In fact, the whole province will be shut down IF the NDP get in power.
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Re: So, a ski hill on a glacier?

Postby grammafreddy » Nov 21st, 2012, 7:09 pm

SurplusElect wrote:Waste of money paying salaries considering there is no investors and it will be shut down when the NDP get in power.


Salaries? How will they pay salaries to anyone? Salaries are paid from charging property taxes on the owners of residential, commercial and industrial lands. There's nothing there. No gazetted lands, no businesses, no industries and no homes. No taxes generated. No salaries - unless the good taxpayers of the whole province step forward and pays these salaries and other expenses (that's you and me courtesy of the provincial government). Hell, there isn't even a city hall to hold a city council meeting in. There is nothing. Just a newly incorporated city that doesn't even have a designated landmass or boundary and a newly provincially-appointed council.

What a friggin' joke.

What is this? The Liberal's last guffaw at us? Their last chance to steal more before they are booted out for all their lies and thievery already? Their last golden opportunity to lay some more gold on some "friend's" palm?

Mind you, I don't think the NDP would do any different, or the Conservatives, either. This was, after all, originally an NDP initiative.
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Re: So, a ski hill on a glacier?

Postby SurplusElect » Nov 21st, 2012, 7:20 pm

grammafreddy wrote:Salaries? How will they pay salaries to anyone? No salaries - unless the good taxpayers of the whole province step forward and pays these salaries and other expenses (that's you and me courtesy of the provincial government).

What a friggin' joke.

What is this?Their last golden opportunity to lay some more gold on some "friend's" palm?


You said it.
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Re: So, a ski hill on a glacier?

Postby GordonH » Jan 6th, 2014, 3:07 pm

When you have to start compromising yourself and your morals for the people around you, it’s probably time to change the people around you. Do what makes you happy, and do it a little better every day… and don’t forget to breath!
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Re: So, a ski hill on a glacier?

Postby rvrepairnut » Jan 6th, 2014, 3:16 pm

Liquidnails wrote:I think the project is beyond it's "best before" date. All the current resorts in BC are overbuilt and prices are in a slow decline. The Boomer bulge is trading in cold Winter recreation for warm beaches with bikinis.

as much as Iam for free enterprize.hate walfare,hate indian tax payments, etc etc I agree with u on this
we don't need no more stinking skihill developments etc

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Re: So, a ski hill on a glacier?

Postby KL3-Something » Jan 8th, 2014, 11:51 pm

Liquidnails wrote:I think the project is beyond it's "best before" date. All the current resorts in BC are overbuilt and prices are in a slow decline. The Boomer bulge is trading in cold Winter recreation for warm beaches with bikinis.

rvrepairnut wrote:as much as Iam for free enterprize.hate walfare,hate indian tax payments, etc etc I agree with u on this
we don't need no more stinking skihill developments etc


I hope it fizzles and falters and never gets built.

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Re: So, a ski hill on a glacier?

Postby twobits » Jan 9th, 2014, 8:00 am

hobbyguy wrote:
Would they be able to exceed the average number of skier days per resort, given that it will likely be pricey and local skiers are 1/3 of the market?

How much would you be willing to spend to ski there?


Am thinking there just might be a significant number of people that would pay to ski in our summer months without having to go to Australia or New Zealand. And then there are those that will just go for the bikini scenery.
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