Horgan approval rating

[Snman]

Is Premiership even a word? If it is, I don't like it.

[Urban Cowboy]

Is Premiership even a word? If it is, I don't like it.

If it is, in this application it should be replaced by "Titanic", as that's the only ship Horgan is qualified to Captain.

[twobits]

The BC NDP have an okay record when it comes to polls. Elections? Not so much. The last time the NDP won an election was in 1996 and even in that year they lost the popular vote. NDP supporters on here can cheer Horgan's current standing while acknowledging that part of his 52% approval rating is due to his decision to go ahead with the Site C dam. Now there's a large dose of irony for some NDP'ers on here to take in.

What also must be considered is that this poll took place before the reveal of speculation tax. Weaver's three seat members have received an earful.
And I can't help but wonder how many BCTF members own cabins at Big White or the Gulf Islands lol. Ya know, those under paid civil servants that get Xmas, Spring Break, and July and Aug off.
And every other part of the Province not targeted by this ludicrous veil of increasing rental accomodations is wondering......are we next??
This is just another example of f'ing brain dead NDP policy that ruined the Province the last time they could carry a legislative vote.

[hobbyguy]

And the latest poll says NDP doing just fine...

https://www.mainstreetresearch.ca/horga ... -liberals/

Begin the gnashing of teeth!

Do you read what you post? The poll shows NDP support down 10 points from the election, and was taken before the impacts of the thrash around budget had been analyzed. See the Les Leyne column I posted above.

Plus, and this TROUBLE for the BC NDP/LEAP - the Green support is UP since the election as they strip mine support away from the silly dippers.

That's the best part of this mess, the BC NDP are in big trouble, Andrew Weaver is eating their lunch!

ETA The funniest thing in that poll you posted is the statement that "the NDP have a lead over the Liberals in the interior" - dream on! Yessirree the NDP won West Kelowna - NOT, not even close.

[Urban Cowboy]

This is just another example of f'ing brain dead NDP policy that ruined the Province the last time they could carry a legislative vote.

The light at the end of the tunnel, might turn out to be this trend of repeated 1990's mistakes, in the sense that maybe they'll accommodate us, with another 77-2 thrashing at the polls. That's one repeat I can wrap my head around.

[jayro]

I'm on the fence he is certainly an improvement over that dishonest thieving Crook we had before.......So the Bar was set pretty low With Crusty Clark...... and I really don't agree with the NDP's position on Kinder Morgan and the carbon tax, and some of their MLA's need a reality check like Heyman and yes GB Looney Lana.........but I do give him credit for addressing the housing crisis, the mess that the Liberals left with ICBC, approving site C, supporting public education and actually taking action and supporting LNG development. I was really turned off by Andrew Weaver's reaction to the decision... does he not realize that this will create jobs and LNG is clean energy and will help China get off coal?

[Urban Cowboy]

I'm on the fence he is certainly an improvement over that dishonest thieving Crook we had before.......So the Bar was set pretty low With Crusty Clark...... and I really don't agree with the NDP's position on Kinder Morgan and the carbon tax, and some of their MLA's need a reality check like Heyman and yes GB Looney Lana.........but I do give him credit for addressing the housing crisis, the mess that the Liberals left with ICBC, approving site C, supporting public education and actually taking action and supporting LNG development. I was really turned off by Andrew Weaver's reaction to the decision... does he not realize that this will create jobs and LNG is clean energy and will help China get off coal?

Well so far he hasn't addressed the housing crisis, because as we're told that's still inconclusive as they monitor fallout, of an ill thought out plan.
ICBC rates were going to go up regardless, so not much point in crediting Horgan with that.
Site C was a Liberal project so in fairness I suppose you could say he reapproved it, as if that was necessary, and that only because he gauged the repercussions of scrapping it would be far worse.
Education was already doing well, and LNG was a Liberal thing, that actually most NDP fans kept bad mouthing, yet all of a sudden you and others are crediting him for it? Puzzling that.

It's as if some are desperate to give him credit for something, but I guess that's a little understandable, since so far most of what's happened, has been Liberal stuff implemented by the NDP.

What they have dreamed up on their own has been disastrous so far, as in this foreign buyers tax, PR, and funding the bankrupt NDP party out of our tax dollars, and let's not forget fighting Kinder Morgan, oh and making us pay for his legal defense after shooting his mouth off. Great stuff, NOT!

With labor negotiations looming on the horizon, there's going to be much more of a gong show in our future, especially since the BCTF feel they need a 15K raise for each member. All this as they implement ideas that are sure to head us toward recession.

[jayro]

Fair enough Site C was a Liberal thing and he just re approved it.

LNG was also a liberal thing but they took for ever and at least Horgan's trade mission was not simply another photo op he put together a solid business case and actually provided incentives for them to locate here I was impressed with that and Weaver is an idiot fighting him on that.

ICBC is a mess and we are all paying higher rates because of it. Would the NDP have done the same thing yes probably after all they brought it in but the fact of the matter is that is was the liberals that messed it up and did nothing to fix it.

As for education ok it was doing all right but you can't argue that what the Liberals did was unconstitutional it was proven in the court and the way they handled the last strike was abolutely obnoxious especially when they decided to pay parents each day the strike went on.

[hobbyguy]

^^ actually what the Liberals did regarding the BCTF fiasco that the BC NDP lunatics created was the right thing, but done impatiently and incorrectly.

What we need is a government with the guts to lock the BCTF out until that horrible back room deal by Dix and Horgan gets squashed out of the contract. It is completely unconscionable and unacceptable to have the rabble rouser unelected BCTF union bunch in control of OUR education system.

[jayro]

What we need is a government that supports public education and bargins in good faith with public sector unions. We also need a government that is more supportive of LNG and Kinder Morgan, respects our tax dollars and makes life more affordable something that all three parties have failed at especially the Liberals and Greens so I'd say the NDP are the lesser of the three evils and why Horgan is at a 52% approval rating but time will tell. They have potential I didn't mind Mike Harcourt and if the NDP had more people like Mike Farnsworth they would they do better I don't understand why they got rid of Carol James as leader as she brought the party back from nearly zero.

[burnedatstake]

people are actually surprised? horgan is the bomb!

[Snman]

people are actually surprised? horgan is the bomb!

He sure is.

[fluffy]

The fact that 52% rates the best approval rating among premiers says to me that either Canadians in general are fairly evenly polarized in their political views, or that we have learned to settle for mediocre in our choice of leaders. Or maybe a bit of both.

[hobbyguy]

What we need is a government that supports public education and bargins in good faith with public sector unions. We also need a government that is more supportive of LNG and Kinder Morgan, respects our tax dollars and makes life more affordable something that all three parties have failed at especially the Liberals and Greens so I'd say the NDP are the lesser of the three evils and why Horgan is at a 52% approval rating but time will tell. They have potential I didn't mind Mike Harcourt and if the NDP had more people like Mike Farnsworth they would they do better I don't understand why they got rid of Carol James as leader as she brought the party back from nearly zero.

The pattern with the BC NDP is that every time the party gets moved toward a reasonable position, the radicals and anarchists with the party can't stand it, and they destroy anything positive the leader at the time does. Happened to Dave Barrett. Happened to Mike Harcourt. Happened to Carole James. It is happening to John Horgan as the like of the green anarchist George Heyman act out.

Bargaining in good faith is a two way street. No government of any stripe has been able to reach a fair bargained contract with the BCTF (the owelympoics giveaway doesn't count) - not the NDP, not the Socreds, not the Liberals. Yet all have been able to bargain with CUPE, BCGEU etc.

The problem is NOT with those governments not bargaining in good faith, it is with the BCTF being dominated by a destructive clique that never has, and never will bargain in good faith. The BCTF have started this go round off in bad faith already. Unions that bargain in good faith are measured in what they do, and don't bargain in public. The first move by the BCTF is to run to the press and start "trying to bargain" in public by making it a political football again. The BCTF is not a union per se, it is a gang of political rejects that like to play games. If their members get locked out, they still get paid, and they don't seem to care. The BCTF always claim it is about the children, but it isn't, it is about them rabble rousing - and trying to hold the children as hostages to get ransom.

It doesn't help that Horgan doesn't have enough sense to realize that him going to speak at the BCTF AGM is a conflict of interest, and really dumb thing to do in terms of contract negotiation. No private sector executive/manager would be dumb enough to that, and if they did, they would likely get fired.

[twobits]

It doesn't help that Horgan doesn't have enough sense to realize that him going to speak at the BCTF AGM is a conflict of interest, and really dumb thing to do in terms of contract negotiation. No private sector executive/manager would be dumb enough to that, and if they did, they would likely get fired.

I am actually shocked that the press has been as muted as it has been on this faux pas. Horgan's attendance at a Union Annual General Meeting of the BCTF IMO goes beyond conflict of interest. It smacks of collusion.