Re: Kelowna RCMP Wearing Video Cameras
Posted: Oct 27th, 2012, 3:36 pm
it is quite amusing
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MAPearce wrote:And the "Cops don't do ANYTHING wrong ever " crowd start to chirp.....
not surprised.
CoconutBreath wrote:Oh,....here's a DARE for ya, their TrunkMonkey....next time you get pulled over for a MINOR traffic violation, pull out your cellphone & "pretend" to videotape the officer at your window.....guaranteed he'll find SOMEthing to throw u in jail. GUARAN-TEEED.
goatboy wrote:MAPearce wrote:And the "Cops don't do ANYTHING wrong ever " crowd start to chirp.....
not surprised.
And you fall into which crowd? You've been chirping a lot yourself.
castakelowna wrote:
Oh come on now.... You would have to be living under a rock, or drinking the RCMP kool aid to say "one or a few bad apples"! There is a culture of horrible behaviour within the RCMP and many other police forces. Just because you refuse to acknowledge it does not mean it is not true! For the RCMP it starts in Regina and continues. Management abuses the officers, the officers in turn abuse the public and the authority they are given. Time and time again! I would be here for days if I tried to post info. just on incidents this year alone. I will easily admit that there are MANY officers that do an amazing job and are true heros', but there are also MANY that have no respect for the Oath they take! The fact that even the "good" cops will lie to protect the bad ones" I didnt see what happened, I was loading the bike in the car" shows that there is a fear of speaking out even when colleagues are committing horrible acts!
It is not your fault Trunk, this mindset is drilled into you right from the beginning. Do what you are told, dont talk back, polish those boots, make your bed a certain way, cut you hair a certain way, etc. etc. etc. I would go nuts too if I was part of a cult like organization! Couple that with the fact that society does not value police services enough to pay you guys more, (and management gets an unfair share of the pie) so that you can take some R&R time to unwind once in a while and are not tempted to take the $$$ when flashed in your face. There are also not enough ways for whistleblowers to speak out without fear of retribution and not enough services (mental health) to make sure that you guys are coping well with the stresses of your job, and the fact that due to a lack of social programs police are left to deal with the mentally challenged/ill, it all adds up. You are only human and humans make mistakes. This is why I feel that the general public, including the officers, would be well served with video recording that keeps track of the officers just as much as it does the citizens.
MAPearce wrote:
It's only that I don't think cops should have control of whats recorded or deleted that you continue with your "basher" type of comments...
FreeRights wrote:castakelowna wrote:
Oh come on now.... You would have to be living under a rock, or drinking the RCMP kool aid to say "one or a few bad apples"! There is a culture of horrible behaviour within the RCMP and many other police forces. Just because you refuse to acknowledge it does not mean it is not true! For the RCMP it starts in Regina and continues. Management abuses the officers, the officers in turn abuse the public and the authority they are given. Time and time again! I would be here for days if I tried to post info. just on incidents this year alone. I will easily admit that there are MANY officers that do an amazing job and are true heros', but there are also MANY that have no respect for the Oath they take! The fact that even the "good" cops will lie to protect the bad ones" I didnt see what happened, I was loading the bike in the car" shows that there is a fear of speaking out even when colleagues are committing horrible acts!
It is not your fault Trunk, this mindset is drilled into you right from the beginning. Do what you are told, dont talk back, polish those boots, make your bed a certain way, cut you hair a certain way, etc. etc. etc. I would go nuts too if I was part of a cult like organization! Couple that with the fact that society does not value police services enough to pay you guys more, (and management gets an unfair share of the pie) so that you can take some R&R time to unwind once in a while and are not tempted to take the $$$ when flashed in your face. There are also not enough ways for whistleblowers to speak out without fear of retribution and not enough services (mental health) to make sure that you guys are coping well with the stresses of your job, and the fact that due to a lack of social programs police are left to deal with the mentally challenged/ill, it all adds up. You are only human and humans make mistakes. This is why I feel that the general public, including the officers, would be well served with video recording that keeps track of the officers just as much as it does the citizens.
Ignoring the rest of your post, you allege that the traditional training of police officers instills this mindset. You could not be more incorrect. Most armed forces in the world go through the same training that develop a culture of discipline, integrity, and honesty, and the "cult-like" activities exist for a reason, for police and for military.
I would suggest you actually know something prior to pretending you do.
Trunk-Monkey wrote:CoconutBreath wrote:Oh,....here's a DARE for ya, their TrunkMonkey....next time you get pulled over for a MINOR traffic violation, pull out your cellphone & "pretend" to videotape the officer at your window.....guaranteed he'll find SOMEthing to throw u in jail. GUARAN-TEEED.
1st of all I dont answer to DAREs but if I was pulled over and yes I have been, I would be polite and co-operative to the police as I know they are just doing there job. To date in all my years driving I have not had one bad experience with a cop when I was pulled over. Yes I have I been a ticket a time or two but you know something...I deserved them.
Captain Awesome wrote:bcpaul wrote:sURE, as long as I can record them too
Nobody is stopping you.
castakelowna wrote:so when you say you deserved the ticket, did you break any real laws? Damage? injury/assault? fraud? If i am speeding i am not breaking any natural law. You will give me a ticket because the "Act" says you can, but in actually law, nobody is hurt, no property damaged and nobody was defrauded..... So where is the crime? and tell me it is not a money grab!
and ya, you are gonna say prevent this or that, but maybe the REAL laws should be punishable with harsher punishments when they are broken, rather than a cash grab under the guise of trying to save/help people...
castakelowna wrote:
the cop will try to find a way.....