Typical of Governments, cuts Community Living

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There is 3 main groups that governments hit first when cuts come:

A) the young
B) the old
C) the disable

And it is "C" that the latest to be hit , which is shameful.

http://www.theprovince.com/health/Commu ... story.html
http://www.globaltvbc.com/community+liv ... story.html

The ones who can least afford having what service they get cut, people wonder why I despise politicians. I guess it would be much different story if these people were part top 5% money makers.
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http://www.globaltvbc.com/community+liv ... story.html

Community Living slashes jobs for mentally challenged adults
Global News : Wednesday, September 14, 2011 12:00 AM

MAPLE RIDGE – More than two dozen developmentally challenged adults will be without a job at the end of the year because a government agency is cutting funding for the program that employs them.

Community Living is axing the $300,000 dollar budget for a program that pays the group minimum wage to work at a Maple Ridge recycling plant.

For the people employed there, it's not about the money, but the feeling of dignity and satisfaction that comes with having a job.

Another local program, which places developmentally challenged people in volunteer positions, is also seeing its funding slashed.

“We’ve specifically built a work site where this group of people can experience success in a job setting,” says Kim Day with Ridge Meadows Recycling Society. “The reality for many is that if they did not have the additional extra support that is required for that success, they would not remain employed.”

But the director of CLBC says it’s not a cost cutting measure, and the agency will meet with workers to find new options.

“We want to focus toward more real employment in community in a variety of community settings,” says Carla Thiesen, Regional Director with Community Living BC.
“We'll be working with them. The contract has been extended until December, and we are meeting with the families to start a planning process going forward.”


Okay, this is a real recycling business that gets paid for its "product". The employees are challenged people. If the employees were "normal" (as in not challenged), would anyone consider this to be a "bailout" or a "subsidy" and be against the government (through BC Community Living) funding it to the tune of $300,000?

My big questions here are ...

How much are the people who are running this operation getting paid?

How much do the people at CLBC get paid to "administer" these programs?

NOTE: This is NOT the government slashing the funding to this and another program. This is CLBC slashing the funding.
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I listened to Global cast: around the 52 second into GF.
"the government threw community living cutting funding"


Community Living is crown corporation.
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grammafreddy wrote:http://www.globaltvbc.com/community+living+slashes+jobs+for+mentally+challenged+adults/6442481839/story.html

Community Living slashes jobs for mentally challenged adults
Global News : Wednesday, September 14, 2011 12:00 AM

MAPLE RIDGE – More than two dozen developmentally challenged adults will be without a job at the end of the year because a government agency is cutting funding for the program that employs them.

Community Living is axing the $300,000 dollar budget for a program that pays the group minimum wage to work at a Maple Ridge recycling plant.

For the people employed there, it's not about the money, but the feeling of dignity and satisfaction that comes with having a job.

Another local program, which places developmentally challenged people in volunteer positions, is also seeing its funding slashed.

“We’ve specifically built a work site where this group of people can experience success in a job setting,” says Kim Day with Ridge Meadows Recycling Society. “The reality for many is that if they did not have the additional extra support that is required for that success, they would not remain employed.”

But the director of CLBC says it’s not a cost cutting measure, and the agency will meet with workers to find new options.

“We want to focus toward more real employment in community in a variety of community settings,” says Carla Thiesen, Regional Director with Community Living BC.
“We'll be working with them. The contract has been extended until December, and we are meeting with the families to start a planning process going forward.”


Okay, this is a real recycling business that gets paid for its "product". The employees are challenged people. If the employees were "normal" (as in not challenged), would anyone consider this to be a "bailout" or a "subsidy" and be against the government (through BC Community Living) funding it to the tune of $300,000?

My big questions here are ...

How much are the people who are running this operation getting paid?

How much do the people at CLBC get paid to "administer" these programs?

NOTE: This is NOT the government slashing the funding to this and another program. This is CLBC slashing the funding.


Where does CLBC get its funding?

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Well, you could just as easily have pointed to their financial statements to demonstrate where the money comes from...

....and where it goes

http://www.communitylivingbc.ca/wp-cont ... ements.pdf
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Cutting 1 or 2 typical ineffective mangers at any of the health authorities would more than cover $300,000.
Cutting Gordon Campbell's pension would help cover that too.
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Taxing unions would be a great cash cow.
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logicalview wrote:Taxing unions would be a great cash cow.


Oh give that freaky idiocy a break for a while Logical. The financial problems we face (and that are going to increase incredibly) have little, if anything, to do with unions.

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NAB wrote:
logicalview wrote:Taxing unions would be a great cash cow.


Oh give that freaky idiocy a break for a while Logical. The financial problems we face (and that are going to increase incredibly) have little, if anything, to do with unions.

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But certainly more than cutting Gordon Capbells pension wouldn't you say?
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Oh, and one more thing the "government" didn't cut anything here. Community Living cut one of their own programs and has decided to use the money elsewhere.
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logicalview wrote:
NAB wrote:
logicalview wrote:Taxing unions would be a great cash cow.


Oh give that freaky idiocy a break for a while Logical. The financial problems we face (and that are going to increase incredibly) have little, if anything, to do with unions.

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But certainly more than cutting Gordon Capbells pension wouldn't you say?


No, I wouldn't say. The problems we face go far beyond the petty partisan political crap that keeps getting spewed here.

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For the people employed there, it's not about the money, but the feeling of dignity and satisfaction that comes with having a job.


Well, they can hire them to work as volunteers...
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NAB wrote:
logicalview wrote:
NAB wrote:
logicalview wrote:Taxing unions would be a great cash cow.


Oh give that freaky idiocy a break for a while Logical. The financial problems we face (and that are going to increase incredibly) have little, if anything, to do with unions.

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But certainly more than cutting Gordon Capbells pension wouldn't you say?


No, I wouldn't say. The problems we face go far beyond the petty partisan political crap that keeps getting spewed here.

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Well fair enough, but how come you don't bother to take on ditz or any of the other NDP'ers when it comes to *bleep* for tat?
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logicalview wrote:
NAB wrote:
logicalview wrote:
NAB wrote:
logicalview wrote:Taxing unions would be a great cash cow.


Oh give that freaky idiocy a break for a while Logical. The financial problems we face (and that are going to increase incredibly) have little, if anything, to do with unions.

Nab


But certainly more than cutting Gordon Capbells pension wouldn't you say?


No, I wouldn't say. The problems we face go far beyond the petty partisan political crap that keeps getting spewed here.

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Well fair enough, but how come you don't bother to take on ditz or any of the other NDP'ers when it comes to *bleep* for tat?


Because they don't interest me in terms of having anything constructive to say either.

Edit to add: And *bleep* for tat is just a childs game anyway.

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